yeah i think he will never going to be like liverpool but he can at least get better and score more with chelsea ...

Torres is the only player who has ever gotten so much time to adapt to a new club and way of playing. Hes a broken thing that cost wayy too much. I've been saying it for a while now, maybe not on here but I've been saying that its time Torres is put to pasture and sent to the MLS.

I don't know what anyone expects of Torres. He is past his best, period. He was past it long before Liverpool even sold him - otherwise they probably wouldn't have!

He had a one great season at Liverpool, and a decent one. He has never performed near that level since. Every player can do that, every player can point to a few good seasons but if they can't sustain it over a career when they have been fit then they aren't that brilliant. Of course even brilliant players can have poor form, suffer injuries, struggle, but 3 years of average performances isn't form.

His goalscoring record at Atletico was okay, nothing amazing. His record in the first few seasons at Liverpool was very good.

Then the last season there and all since he hasn't been particularly good.

Just quit on him already, he clearly isn't remotely as good as people thought he was. Everyone was impressed with his first season at Liverpool, then teams worked him out and he lost the edge. Thats not unusual.

i was in the camp of wanting him to do well but like someone here has already said, hes has been given more time to settle in then anyone i can think of

bench torres and then sell him when we get lukaku back or bring in a new young striker asap

I want him to do well, no matter where, and it's looking less and less likely that it will be Chelsea. If it means Torres will return to Spain, then so be it.

"I no longer believe that a period on the bench will help him at all"... but he can't stay in the starting line up if he is not performing. Transfer fee or no transfer fee, no player is bigger than the club. Chelsea need a striker who can knock in goals week in, week out and Torres isn't doing that. I believe Ba can do that now. It's the owners fault for paying that ridiculous fee, but the other players, the manager and the fans shouldn't have to be tied down with that. It's about results, and Torres isn't getting any for Chelsea. He's not a game changer anymore. I thought he was magic for Liverpool but Chelsea need to get rid of him. He has had more than enough time to sort himself out.