Actually I thought Messi gave beautiful passes to Aguero and Higuain in the copa america. And sure he was pretty much unseen in the last world cup but I don't recall anybody else making much of a performance...I think Diego Forlan pretty much was the best player of the world cup, but he could only do so much for Uruguay. Argentina's players are just not understanding themselves, and Messi can only do so much. I agree though with not overlooking other players..but I'd rather have his name engraved on a trophy before C. Ronaldo's..lol.
... if you are an Arsenal fan. Or even an unbiased football fan.
That's going to be one long and awkward trip back to London for them.
I really wonder what the next few days will bring and the reaction from Arsenal to this situation, cause it's quite clear that they don't have the squad to compete with the best when a couple are out injured/banned.
unfortunately any trophies that awards any sort of individual player already has Messi's name engraved on it before the season starts. just to save time.
messi is good, but they shouldn't over look other players. its the barca team as a whole that makes messi great. if he was great on his own, Argentina would've won a world cup by now. think one player can't carry a team to world cup glory? go see maradona's 1986 world cup.
Such argument always make me laugh . If argentina was doing great we'd still be hearing that it isnt thnks to messi , but thanks to the teamwork ... wich would be true in any case , so why sprout that argument ?
How often are legendary players all alone in a sh*tty team without any kind of support and good teamwork ? almost never , so bury that flawed argument already guys .
@MIDNIGHTMASK85...Im from Nigeria but i support man united. Whats ur point?...Football is a global sport nd most of the fans come from outside manchster.
Most people who support man utd do so because they win the most. That's all there is to it. Come the day man city rules the roost and man city will have it's legion of glory hunter followers. No ties to Manchester whatsoever, just fake plastic fans who hunt for glory. Most people I know who support man utd have no ties with Manchester whatsoever. But they wouldnt support everton or west ham or someone, they follow man utd cos they win. It's a safe and a popular choice. And it's pathetic
Most people support United because of their wide appeal or the name itself. When I young and playing soccer in grade school the only club I could ever watch on TV or ever heard of was Manchester United. So naturally when I started watching the prem I would root for United since it was the only club I had ever watched.
Yes there are glory hunters for the big clubs, not just United but a lot of people don't have the luxury of supporting a local club or taking the time to choose which club they like by their play style and players and whatnot. I live in the USA but I've been to Old Trafford, seen United away in the prem, been to matches in their preseason tour of the US and my uncle and cousins are from Manchester but not everyone has those chances to see United like I have. You can't blame people for supporting United because of players or the trophies because the same thing can be said for Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Inter, AC Milan, Madrid, Barca... the list goes on and on.
I hate when people say you should support a club like Everton or West but scold people for supporting United when they have no ties to those mid or bottom table clubs. So if you support Birmingham randomly then it's alright? Every club that has any sort of success will always have fans that aren't loyal to the club but to generalize a whole group of supporters is pathetic.
Arsenal defense really poor like it was last season and now all the teams are going to exploit it. Wenger has less than a week to fix up Arsenal's problems but I doubt he will do much far too many problems exist for him to handle
8-2 lmao! thing is we didnt even play that well, it was just arsenal couldnt defend. everytime we came forward i thought we were going to score. 3 days left for wenger to make some signings.
I don`t think they will sack him. He is a great manager, and if there is someone who can turn this for Arsenal it`s him. He need new players, but do they have money to buy for?
They have the money. They have like £60million after the player sales. They have the money but Wenger won't spend. Even after this match he still said theres no need to spend. Stubborn to the max. He's a great manager who gets the best out of players but his transfers dealings (or lack of) are killing the club.
We should be able to buy quality players, we're in champions league, we have money. But he doesn't spend it.
8-2 Wenger. There's the result of your actions. 8-2. Is he really going to fix the club
I don't accept this "weak team" excuse. Man U will not beat relegation teams or Leeds 8-2. That Arsenal team had injuries but so do utd. Players just arent good enough.
if my forumites have eye poking qualities of watching a game you would totally side with me that manchester united were a class of their own and they totally mesmerized the emirates boys:a piece of soccer lesson.i call it calcio di scoula.infact guns were blazing from all angles right from the start and it became a night mare with arsene wenger trying to contain himself.yes indeed they lost to a better side.what is d meaning of arsenal not being a better side?i said it here that qpr were only soaking themselves in d game and i was taken on but when arsenal lost the blame was the fault of wenger not ready to spend.can someone remind me the other excuse?yes i got it: 8 players did not play.thats a nice way of appeasing the followers of arsenal.i tel you what if there is an excuse for missing out a penalty then most definitly there is an excuse for a defeat.come to think of it,nasri has left and fabrigas as well.i find it hard to sympathize with these flimsy excuses.if one has been at the helm of managerial affairs then you would know that proactive plans should form the basis of management policies in order for the business to thrive on good grounds and be ahead of its competitors:so is football,wenger was aware of these development within the club before, during and after the pre season matches that big clubs were knocking on its door for thier two bigger stars which was inevitable for arsenal to deny the rights of the players.As a manager what do you do?in the english premiership unlike the germans and italians, the bulk of the clubs management decisions rest upon the shoulders of the the coach which basically makes the coach the first among equal in the manaagement level with regards to the powers they wield with regards to other rank and file.i just dont wana get into the nitti gritties of issue now,the bottom line is that wenger believed in his ideals and principles of receiving praises of unearthing new talents for the club.yes he is a master in that field and has contributed to where arsenal is now,but,he fails to speak with management about the welfare of these players and how best to sustain them within their comfort zone when they are matured.the likes of adebayo,fabregas, nasri were in thier peak ready to contribute to arsenal dream of a champions league but they all left because the proper management poilicies were nothing to write home about.:A paraphrase fro nasri was put in this way, i am not coming to manchester city here because of money but to win something.All in all,Arsenal has a great coach who has coached them since 1995 and achieved laurels for them.there is something unique about his coaching which i do fancy:that is youth development and it is yielding result.just recently he has brought the new ghanaian guy frimpong to the fore and he will be making headlines in the future.arsenal supporters need to galvanize a grab and believe in the coach for the injured players will recuperate sooner than later.just accept the defeat in good faith and relax your excuses.qpr had injured players and after their recuperation they beat everton.who knows arsenal wil
That was just painful to watch
I feel sorry for arsenal
28/08/2011 - The day Manchester raped London...badly.
Manchesters 13 - 3 London
Arsenal defense really poor like it was last season and now all the teams are going to exploit it.
Wenger has less than a week to fix up Arsenal's problems but I doubt he will do much far too many problems exist for him to handle
Manchester are the city to watch for never mind the team.
Manchester 13 London 3
what city can do, Man u can do better. :)
and Man u should have got alot more.