The Dutchman continued his scintillating form in front of goal with a brace against Borussia Dortmund, and has embarked on a similar hot streak to that of the Spanish league stars
Hes hot this season no doubt about it. Question is can he keep it up for the rest of this season and the future seasons. Thats what distinguishes players like CR7 and Messi.
No he's not, maybe on CR's level if anything, but certainly not on Messi. However, this guy has been doing wonders for Arsenal, and he always scores a damn goal on me when I play against them on fifa 12 lol.
I don't understand how you can say on CR7's level but not Messi's level when CR7 has proven himself as a top class player wherever he plays (EPL, La Liga, International). Can't say the same for Messi.
Messi is a more complex player than Ronaldo. His passing game annihilates that of Ronaldo, he's more of a team player and can both assist/create passes and score from passes made to him. What you're leading to is obviously his performance internationally. That is a different topic in itself because Argentina has low chemistry on its team. Also, I haven't seen CR do too much for Portugal either. There's a reason Messi has the golden ball and ronaldo the golden boot. Just my two cents, but that takes nothing away from VP, he's awesome.
So EUFA gave a EUFAlona player an award, lol. Yes, Messi has better passing but thats because Ronaldo is pure striker. Most of the time he's looking for the shot or to finish. Complex player?! lol He's nothing without his midfield. More complex my a**. Really Ronaldo doesn't help Portugal? And you're giving Messi a pass because of chemistry?! lmao come on man. Both Argentina and Portugal have star players, I think Argentina has more though. But neither team have great chemistry.
And yes, RVP is an awesome player. If he stays healthy we'll see how far he can help take Arsenal. Thinking about getting his jersey.
If you think they're biased at picking the best player in the word that's you, but I don't know who else they would pick. Correction btw, Messi compliments his midfield, and vice versa. At Argentina he performs the role that Xavi has in Barca, that's why he's more complex and it's easier to compare Persie to Ronaldo. I'm not giving Messi a pass, but I'm not like some people who criticize him for not scoring on such team. Same can be said for Ronaldo, athough as you said, he's a pure striker.
LOL maybe on CR's level if anything but not on Messi ? Talking trash right there. CR7 is on the same level as Lionel Messi. On topic, he's doing well so far, but I wouldn't say he's on the same level as Messi or CR.
Messi Hasn't prove anything for me to consider better than CR, what have he done outside of Barca nothing! I tell you what a great player is, a great player is someone who can play in any systems and perform Great and be consistence at the highest level Ronaldo (Brazilian), Maradona and Zidane hell even CR all have prove it, but for Messi nope But don't get me Wrong, Messi is an awesome player, he fitt perfectly in Barca system, but he hasn't done anything impress me outside of Barca
Why does he need to? Barca is his home. That's where he's most comfortable and certainly that's where he's at his best. International football has been disappointing in general for a while now. Reason why Spain is able to dominate like this. There's no player out there that performs exceptionally well internationally, compared to his club performances atleast. NONE. Ronaldo has done well at United, yeah, but that's it. He hasn't been able to to win anything for Portugal either. Messi has proved more than enough to me and to everyone else that he is the best in the world and surely up there for one of the greatest of all time. While Pele did do well internationally, he also never left Brazil. Europe is where the best football is played, so I don't see why he gets all this credibility for dominating such a second rate league, while Messi has been destroying Europe and all the top teams for years consecutively but people like you still won't accept him. It's baffling to me really. Back in 08-09 Ronaldo could have been the best, but from 2010, Messi has been a lot better than him.
Indeed but people seem to forget the past and his injury record and past goals to game record. Sure hes having a great season but players like CR and Messi do it every season not for 1 season or half a season. Way too early to say this yet. Maybe come back in 2 years and ask again if he still banging them in every week. Then again he won't be in an Arsenal shirt come August 2012. So how would he cope in a team with other goalscorers?
Lol...I hate to see people lie to themselves like this. I am a huge manchester United fan, while also having a little soft spot for Real Madrid...because of the absolute love I have from Ronaldo....but even I can admit that Messi is on a complete different level. Back when Ronaldo was at United, yeah , maybe there was a debate as to who is the better player, but ever since Ronaldo went Madrid, he hasn't been as good as he was at United. Yeah his goal scoring got better, but that's only because La Liga kinda sucks besides from the top two...and maybe two other teams. Ronaldo still has a huge issue with performing when it matters.
Madrid have beaten barca ONCE ever since Ronaldo arrived. Why? Because Messi absolutely obliterates them every time. And lol, Ronaldo doesnt do shit for Portugal either. Fact. Messi is the better player. I can say this as a HUGE Ronaldo fan.
EDIT: Oh I forgot what the main topic is here....RVP. Nah he isn't even close to Ronaldo or Messi's level yet. He's gonna get injured soon anyway and all this will be over.
Messi havnt done anything for his own country and I am also sure that he will not do anything for other clubs thats where CR7 definetly have an edge over him.Do u even watch his matches?He is absolutely brilliant messi relies on barca system and that why he is good in barca and no where else where CR7 can play at any system.
Yeah you people are absolutely ridiculous lol. I mean, you do know it's Messi's individual performances that has made him the best player on the planet for the past 3 years right? Not only was he the top goal scorer for barca by a longshot, but he also had the most assists. Of course having great players like Xavi and Iniesta around him is good for him, but it's Messi that torments defenses individually. Lol I really can't believe how ridiculous people can be...This "MESSI IS SHIT WITHOUT XAVI AND INIESTA LOL JUST LOOK AT HOW BAD HE DOES AT ARGENTINA" is so stupid. He has a different role at Argentina, and it's not that he doesn't play well, I see it more as the players around him doing absolute crap. Argentina has no idea how to operate as a team. Maybe when they get a proper manager, Messi will be able to play at his full potential. It's funny because Ronaldo really doesn't do much really for Portugal either. You people are just way too biased. Just go watch over all six el classicos last year. While Ronaldo was non existent for most of them, Messi completely and utterly destroyed Madrid.
U sound like a barca It doesnt matter he plays on different positions it is more like an excuse.I thought he is the best player in the world?U guys said he par on maradonna.If he really is maradonna he cud hav won the copa america single handly for argentina just like maradonna did during his days and he doesnt need anyone's help.Messi plays like an average player for his country.Ronaldo always pushed his own country to the top and also helped qualified for the euro cup championship it wasnt for crisitano portugal will never qualified for euro and also world cup.He also won titles for machester united and now he is gonna win titles for real madrid too.As for clasico cristiano already scored 3 goals for madrid and also won a game against them and messi didnt destroyed Real it was barca.
@snakefist30 totally agree with Messi he is a 1 trick pony for all his greatness and proves it once he puts on a national shirt. He can only play 1 kind of football so is very 1 dimensional. For this reason I personally don't think he is the best player in the world purely because to be the best you have to be adaptable to a certain level CR certainly can do that playing striker and on the wing no problems and playing whatever formation/style suits Mourinho.
wow both you and Snakefist30 are completely ridiculous. messi has been the most consistant player in world football for the last 3 years. he is the complete team player in terms of shooting, passing and even getting back when he loses the ball(which isnt very often)
@Snakefist30 "Messi havnt done anything for his own country and I am also sure that he will not do anything for other clubs thats where CR7 definetly have an edge over him."
i forgot ronaldo's won many major trophys for portugal :/ and how the hell can you say messi wouldnt have an impact at any other club when he hasnt played club football for any other than barca. ronaldo makes tooooo many silly mistakes to even be compared to lionel messi.
my conclusion is that anyone who thinks christiano is anywhere near messi's level is delusional!!!!
OT: RVP is the best striker in england at the moment, however he is not on messi or even ronaldo's level yet. maybe in a few years if he stays injury free.
wow your delusional ferrelljade you only have to watch Messi in an Argentina shirt to know what I am talking about. Ronaldo in a Portugal shirt is still as lethal and he was for Manchester United. Messi outside Barca turns very average in fact its almost below average which is bad for a player who is supposed to be the best in the world. I mean dont get me wrong I HATE Ronaldo more than any other footballer on the planet as he's a smug git but he has the right to be.
ur much delusional than me messi plays like an average player outside barca proof is look how he plays in argentina.Messi also make mistakes just cristiano and also dives to just like cristiano.If he was that great he wud hav won the copa america single handlely!!Both messi and cristiano are equals.It is barcelona who make messi look great!!
messi passes amazing amount of goals aswell.. but RVP is the striker who is always in the right place at the right time.. reminds me of ruud can nistelrooy :O
Class player.
It will stop when he gets injured again.
Hes hot this season no doubt about it. Question is can he keep it up for the rest of this season and the future seasons. Thats what distinguishes players like CR7 and Messi.
No he's not, maybe on CR's level if anything, but certainly not on Messi. However, this guy has been doing wonders for Arsenal, and he always scores a damn goal on me when I play against them on fifa 12 lol.
I would say so,he is one of the hottest strikers in europe at the moment
I was waiting for someone to make this article.
Van Persie is in great form best striker in England at the moment