The FA issued the punishment on the grounds that the Uruguayan made insulting comments in reference to the Red Devils defender's skin colour but the attacker is likely to appeal.
I don't think what he did is right but I'm telling you there is no way he's going to miss 8 games mark my words. Unless he doesn't appeal which he of course will.
the word he used is not an insult in Uruguay, its a common word used in non racial manner in south america. even ManU's Mexican striker was quoted using it in reference to on of his teammates.
in the other hand the words used buy John Terry are clear, but everyone is talking about Suarez.
It may not be an insult in Uruguay but is Evra NOT from Uruguay and was NOT it said in Uruaguy, NO. Racism may be fine in Uruguay but in Europe we can't stand for it.
Why Suarez felt the need to call Evra Negreto/Negro/Nigga on the field of play is astounding and he has been rightfully punished. Hate crime should not go unpunished now matter how good the player. I think he should have been banned for 30 games to send out a statement.
its about context, first Negro is the common word for black in Spanish, not slavery connected, and in Latin america, the racial issue is mainly about European vs indigenous, in non western culture its common and non offensive to refer to some one by his skin tone casually like hair color. and like I said Chitinho used the word but its OK coz he plays for ManU
I hate to agree with Budymagoo but I do any racism should be dealt with hard and its great the FA are dealing with it. Sure 8 games is bad most thought it would be around 6 but they are making an example out of him after the whole Blatter incident. Suarez hasn't helped his case either by saying he demands an apology from Evra once he's found not guilty. This is coming from a city supporter here so you know this isn't about sticking up for my team or against my closest rivals which is united. But the liverpool player was wrong here and deserves what he gets.
negro means black , he is black, me calling someone that's black black is not an insult; its more of a fact. now that that is said, I'm not the biggest fan of suarez.
thats a ridiculous argument and could be used to justify almost any racial slur... suarez could have said any standard insult that ppl say to each other when playin footie but he chose to bring race into it. he deserves his ban
You do NOT make reference and address people you are unfamiliar with the use of a word regarding their skin colour. I don't go around calling strangers or minor acquaintances 'whitey' because you KNOW it could possibly be misconstrued and cause offence.
I am utterly disgusted even further by Liverpool's behaviour and statements in this matter by backing Suarez up with useless press releases and the players now wearing these shirts before their game tonight.
It is horrific for me to see Suarez being backed and portrayed as the victim in all this. It is just the act of a club desperately trying to excuse that behaviour and weasel their way out of the reality of the situation.
What next? Suarez decides to bite someone again and claim that is fine in Uruguay, its all meant nicely! Liverpool backing him to the hilt...Absolutely outrageous and has got me extremely annoyed tonight
well the difference here is that he didn't call him a n***r, he just called him black and it is difficult to understand, but that is not really racist. At least not from a point of view that sees everyone as equals. To me saying "hey, look at that black guy." is no different than saying "hey, look at that tall guy.", it's not a slur and it's simply a description.
and @Vulcan I lived in Peru for 3 years and in Argentina for 1; from that experience it is easy to see that people there call upon each other by their physical attributes, without being offensive or being racist(chino,chato,negro,blanq uesino, etc). It's simply a difference in culture and translation.
And that being said, I am not here to argue for him because, ultimately, this was said in Europe, where most of the population is white; thus, I am sure black people will take offense to it and think about it as a derogatory comment. Of course this is different in south america.
Liverpool's statement and stance is poor IMO, they are still claiming that as Evra was the only one who heard it then Suarez shouldn't be found guilty.
In my eyes this is an abysmal statement from the club and i lost a lot of respect for them putting it out, its akin to the Saudi Arabian laws that say unless you have a bunch of other witnesses to a rape (as if you would) for example then it didn't happen and there can be no charges.
Suarez would have only wanted Evra to hear it, and if the cameras caught enough of it and a well trained lip reader can confirm it, then he did it, simple as.
no this is not a joke, racism is very vile and should be stamped out from the game, so a 8 match ban shows that the FA are serious about racism and players will think twice about opening their mouths to discriminate people for their skin colour.
+ what about John Terry's racist remarks to Anton, why is he getting away with it when suarez aint? hmmmm something seems fishy
John Terry happened later and is still being dealt with. His ban will happen later this year and I expect around the same however he hasn't come out demand apologies from Anton etc if found innocent. So I wouldn't be surprised if he got a couple of games less.
I just read the official Liverpool fc statement http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/n... There I found out that Suarez himself is off mixed backgrounds His grandfather was Black and he was friends with many people of that skin colour so can anyone tell me how could he be racist ?????
Lies. Evra has never made allegations before. The one at chelsea was brought up by united's medical staff and the one with finnan was brought up by a deaf viewer who lip read finnan and complained about him.
Really!? People still defending him after he has been found GUILTY???
"panel rule he did racially abuse Evra" What more do you want???
@Below They have to have evidence to charge him which they have done. Man Utd players haven't come out and said anything. I just don't understand how you condone this behaviour.
evidence even united players said they know nothing about it nor the officials @above I don't condone racism I think it should be punished once there is some kind of evidence and if he was guilty why would liverpool defend him ? you can't just ban our best player if they have evidence then let them come out publicly and finish this controversy Liverpool will appeal this...
Liverpool are defending Suarez because he's their player, that's what clubs do, they stick by their player just like you are doing and I don't blame you but you can't just dismiss Evra as a liar when you know as much about this as we do. We're talking about Suarez here. He's the same guy who did this...
Having black friends and relatives doesn't automatically mean he didn't racially abuse Evra. Regardless, 8 games seems harsh but it's a clear statement of intent by the FA to stamp racism out of the game by making an example of Suarez.
so what?.. your argument is weak surez said something racist and he deserves a ban, with all this 'kick racism out' campaign he was always going to be made an example of and rightly so..it doesnt matter if he's one 16th black.. the lengths your'e going to defend him just show ignorance and desperation.. no wonder ppl h8 fans like you who are blinded by their own club.. its ridiculous
I'm shocked people are mad at Evra. He (Suarez) should be punished for this racist comments! This is maybe an isolated incident, but racist is NOT okay, so don`t defend him for this!! Didn`t he also stole Ghana's chances at the World Cup with his handball? Maybe this will teach him a lesson?
Wow, cant believe you got disagrees on a comment speaking out about racism.
On Suarez, if comments are true he's finished in my book, simple as that. As much as I see "Say no to Racism" banners around the pitch I feel the suspension should be harsher imo....
Liverpool good luck trying to stay up - Hes y'all only star striker who creates many chances - Also He Found Guilty so pleas stop with the excuses just like what John Terry Is going through and yet yall may disagree on me just because its true, good luck - 8 match ban is too harsh though , - I cant stand the FA Nowadays
he called him "negro" didnt he? and i think he admitted to saying that. i know negro means black in uraguay but over here it means something totally different, he needs to learn quick you cant say things like that.
But that is the point. Suarez is not british and he didnt mean to insult Evra. Suarez is being punished for being from a different culture and that is wrong and RACIST! He isnt british so dont expect him to act like one. Sure he could learn and respect british customs, but in the heat of the moment, on the pitch people tend to forget about those things and show their true colors. I wonder what would have happened if Evra called Suarez white/latino.
Then he should apologize ...he is not at home , on european soil , this means something totally different , accept his sentence and promise to be carefull of his words next time.
The fact is that he said it. If you do something RUDE on foreign soil , you apologize once you know about it.
Im portuguese and in our culture the word negro is not an insult, far from it, its the most respectful way to say that someone is black. I dont know about Suarez but i would NEVER apologize for being portuguese and i mean NEVER.
As an Uruguayan I think the FA full of crap with the decision for 8 games the word negro is nothing my father nick name is Negro and he's white its meaningless but from this http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/n... Evra said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'and the FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist So I dont think he racist.
@Kos-Mos I see you are a racist then...''Filthy Uruguay''..racism includes discriminating someone because of there national origin and because they are different you think there filthy? Racist alert...Uruguay is a beautiful place.
Wow, this is so pathetic that even though found guilty, people are still trying to justify Suarez's actions. I don't know where most of you on here are from but racially abusing someone is uncalled for and certainly inexcusable in a beautiful game such as football. Yes, I'm a United supporter so you can say that I have a certain bias in this matter but if the tables were turned I would hope that Evra would've gotten the same penalty as Suarez did. An 8 match ban is certainly a good punishment to prove that the FA will not put up with this kind of behavior in the future and I hope to see this kind of treatment to anyone who is charged and then found guilty of this offense.
Problem is we wont and already dont . Similar cases werent handled as swiftly and efficiently . Just like in other cases plenty stars can get away with misconduct and get reduced bans for no reasons .
LISTEN YOU THICK GLORY HUNTING PLASTIC MANC F***ERS, the "evidence" was Evras' account, that was it! Not one official or any other player on the pitch heard anything that is a FACT. One mans word is not proof especially the man who made the allegations. If you have proof please share it with us, if not then stop using lazy stereotypes to chastise those who defend Suarez or obvious bias because it's easier to believe he's a racist than to believe that Evra either mis-heard or lied (as he has in the past).
And what I say here is FACT, I'm not quoting speculation from tabloids, it is official that Evra was the only one to give account of what was taken as proof.
Fact also means what actually happened not just your guess at what happened. FA are obviously not gonna release their evidence until the wntire thing is dealt, appeal and all
Stop being stupid. There are loads of cameras around the ground, which must have picked up the incident. The FA surely will be allowed to confiscate the footage taken from these cameras to be used as evidence. Similar to why there were no cameras at the hearing, since it's evidence.
Evra has also never lied about this before. On the other two occasions it was either a deaf guy who lip-read finnans comments, or united's medical staff at chelsea.
You're pretty obviously a blind fan, but try to use a little of your brain next time ok?
Oh, by the way, the caps lock button is to the left of the 'A' button, dunno if you forgot where it was, if it's stuck or you are 12?
What a joke the FA are. Moaning about Rooney getting three matches for blatantly lashing out and now Suarez gets an eight match ban going solely on what Evra said. Muppets.
What team is in the top 4 every year along Manchester and Arsenal still? Yea what team is stil playing in the champions league? Just because you beat us twice doesn't really matter , you lose to teams that are way below y'all level and Yes , we did bad last game? against wigan , don't get mad because your pal Saurez is done for the next 8 games haha ;)
Suarez is in a bit of a dry spell right now but his creativity is gonna be missed. As for Liverpools season a disaster there still up for a top 4 spot and doing well so I wouldn't say that. Chelsea on the other hand are probably too far away from the title now and can only hope for a top 4 spot the way they been playing.
Let's be honest, what he said wasn't even that terrible. The punishment does seem somewhat harsh (though I'm sure he'll have no problem paying the fine), but they want to make an example of Suarez to show that racism in any form will not be tolerated.
I at least hope this means that John Terry will be banned and fined to no less than double what was handed out to Suarez if he is found guilty, since what he (allegedly) said was far worse. If not, then that would be too alarming a level of prejudice to ignore.
I can see John Terry getting a worse punishment but i can see Suarez getting about 4 match ban on appeal. What Suarez said isn't that bad but how he reacted afterwards shows at least IMO that he knew what he was doing.
The funny thing is that if this was the other way round and it was Evra in the wrong. Every liverpool fan would be calling for the hangmans rope for evra and 8 match ban was too nice for him. :)
Erm nope thats not how it works. They do have 14 days to dispute it though if they take them 14 days to get a case together he can play meaning he will be able to play the first game of the Carling Cup however if they take ban immediately he will be back in time for 2nd game of carling cup. If they fail with the dispute the ban could be longer...
Holy jeez thats ridiculous 8 game ban!? for an alleged racial slur. He called him "negro." Sooo what? I'm from South America, and to be honest there isn't that much racism in the levels of the US/ Europe. We all have mix backgrounds, How come this gets an 8 game ban and a hefty pay fine. whilst rooney could have broken someone's leg. Utter bullshit.
I'm not saying racism is good, because it isn't but black people tend to hold that race card like its their only choice. If someone says something to you in the heat of the game, you deal with it and you stick it to them by beating them period. This ban is going to cost Liverpool if it goes through.
LOL is this really about Suarez calling somebody "negro"? How sensitive can people be! In my country we call people negro casually, hell sometimes they aren't even black and we call them negro or negra as a slang.
Please get off of your high chairs and educate yourselves a bit. A simple misunderstanding is just that, a misunderstanding.
I agree, i don't condone racism whatsoever, but seriously people are oversensitive about everything with the media just making matters worse.
This happens in everything, it is just not football, but most of you here are also part of the n4g community and you can see that videogames get banned or get terrible press from the FOX network over minor things.
I had a discussion with NSBE and ASAO at my school about black people finding it okay to call each others the n word, not even negro or black, but ni**a, what makes it okay for them to say it, but not any other race.
Now people might bring up slavery, but slavery did not start with black people but with Arabians and Indians. Followed by the slavery of europeans(yes, white people), who were actually sold to North Africans, which is sort of ironic.
Slavery started with Sumerians during ancient history not with Arabs. Arabs did not use slavery until the midevil period. The Sumerian Code of Ur-Nammu (c. 2100 BCE – 2050 BCE), the oldest known tablet containing a law code surviving to today, contained laws regarding to slaves and is the oldest recorded evidence of slavery.
"...Education, everyone should get one." - How ironic YOU should suggest that.
And as black people, we can call ourselves what ever the hell we want. It is our ethnic group, and it excludes other ethnicities intentionally. Just like white ethnic groups exclude others who are not white. If we want to use a word deemed acceptable in our ethnic group such as nigga then we shall. I personally don't use it because my social group is beyond such words. But I understand it's application and orgin in the black community better than some random white kid who thinks its cute to say.
If you want to get all technical about it. We are not black we are brown. And we do not call ourselves negro nor answer to it with anything short of a foot to the face. Reffering to people as black differentiates our race from other people who are brown. (Indians, mexicans, aborigines, and even Latinos.) Negro is durragatory and inflammatory. Use it at your own risk.
With all due respect, I don't take a risk when saying it to any of my black friends in Spanish OR English.. In my culture it's fine to call somebody black because well..they are! It's not meant to be racist, it's almost the same as "hey man", or hey "blondie". Therefore, just because one man's slang was misunderstood, he should not be punished that bad. I don't know how he exactly meant it, I don't think anybody does except Suarez, but he doesn't deserve the harsh punishment. Hell what about Terry, I'm still waiting for his 10 game suspension...
This is a joke it is the biggest ban I have ever seen only the drugs ones.
Ridiculus!!!!! This can`t be true FA!!!!????!!
I just read the official Liverpool fc statement http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/n...
There I found out that Suarez himself is off mixed backgrounds His grandfather was Black and he was friends with many people of that skin colour so can anyone tell me how could he be racist ?????
I'm shocked people are mad at Evra. He (Suarez) should be punished for this racist comments! This is maybe an isolated incident, but racist is NOT okay, so don`t defend him for this!!
Didn`t he also stole Ghana's chances at the World Cup with his handball? Maybe this will teach him a lesson?
Wow. 8 matches ban? That was way too harsh.