Oh I could list a bunch more these were just a few that came to the top of my head lol

Nailed it.

But no matter how much Scorpio sells, it won't matter.

Judging by the spec of the scorpio it's going to be "high end electronic" expensive. It won't be an affordable option for most people. Hardcore niche product.

Allot of analytics etc... Allot of talk about mobile gaming being the future and that consoles were doomed.

2005: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...

2011: http://bgr.com/2011/11/30/v...

2013: https://techcrunch.com/2013...

2013: http://www.forbes.com/sites...

2013: http://www.bbc.com/news/tec...

Looking at the links from the last decade. None state the death of consoles, one discusses the drop in E3 attendance and the other the 'death' of the "8 year gens" to which they were right (PS4P/Scorpio).

I could find a quote to 'support' anything online, doesn't mean it's relevant. Never was the general consensus that "consoles where dead", not even in a traditional fashion.

This gen will last around 10 yrs your right but a ps5 will still have already been released.

Well technically speaking that generation didnt last 11 years PlayStation 2 just kept selling for that long because Sony kep supporting it, for all you know they're going to do the same thing for the PlayStation 4.

Choices smoices! What could possibly go wrong? Follow meee!!!

*bang*

They gave numbers way back then and started only doing yoy% do that math and you get you answer lol nothing difficult hell even websites that underestimate console sales have it at about 30 million. However this is probably shipped with sold through being 25 mill. Just glad this gen has been a success to guarantee another cause all those consoles are
Dying and pc hybrid articles were getting worrisome

I did 😂 MS doesn't give numbers. How could this guy possibly know.

I did too after his condescending wall of waffle that followed.

2014...

Last official sold through numbers was xmas 13, they announced 5million shipped by April 14, soon to ship 10 November 14

Lol 360 selling 200 per year. When ms were giving number it was half the amount of ps4s at that same pace its 25mill minimum but since the launch of the S it's been outselling ps4 in NA and UK so that alone can tell you its over 25 million. Math and sense is a great tool

@lastking95
ok, and i really don't care, but you said xbox is on a 10 million per year pace, if that was true, then they shouldn't be at 25mil.(even though its less than that in reality, but for argument's sake) Your comment is not based on any real facts. Furthermore, outselling PS4 when people were waiting on the PS4Pro and the S came out a few months earlier, is not in any way relevant to how many MS has sold. Your math is shaky at best.

Yes you can use X360 numbers. And how about Xbox business is down in last 2 MS's quarter reports. Xbone sales are behind X360 sales WW. Last time when MS said that Xbone is outpacing X360 was back in January 2016 :

http://news.xbox.com/2016/0...

In same time-frame X360 was at 17.7 mil.

During last Black Friday MS didn't said in their PR anything about Xbone outpacing X360 in US. Odd, isn't it.

https://www.thurrott.com/xb...

And also, Xbone is down YOY in November in UK.

If you track NPD threads om GAF, Xbone LTD sales in US are 13.4 mil till date. And also US is +60% of total Xbone sales. It's so easy to calculate.

Sales mean investment and preferential development, so they are very important.

Don't be 'that guy'. Sales mean EVERYTHING. It means we get more games. It means developers will feel more confident on making new games. It means exclusive deals. It means more VR games. Good sales means everything. Don't act like it doesn't.

@Angeljuice

He can't comprehend that because he's in denial.

I loled too.

they may announce it a lil earlier so to get the momentum going before the launch of the MS console so they can kill it's hype a bit at release

@MRMagoo123

It's very strategical to place it before Scorpio launches or after Scorpio has hit it's peak.

Placing it before would really burn out most of Xbox One S sales, but then, it would eventually be overshadowed by the Scorpio being represented as a "brand new console."

Placing that price drop after it's peak sales would mean that the PS4 can once again regain almost full momentum.

There's also the combination of applying the price drop before 2017's Black Friday. Think about this, would someone just want a Scorpio with their 1080p TV (as Scorpio will not be cheap at release, being brand new) or will they want a Pro and have enough money to get that with a living room sized 4k TV? I think most people would go with the latter as it's a great combination to stay up to date with entertainment quality.

That's business strategy, it has a lot of factors and it will all just depend on Scorpio's release date and price. I'm thinking November for $500, maybe $450 for a very limited time as Microsoft has tried giving the Xbox One away by greatly reducing it's price. They have given a free Windows 10 upgrade for a year, this approach is similar, but minimal as it could be $450 for a few weeks.

Regardless, PlayStation is at a great point in time, with the very successful PSX 2016 and the much greater amount of exclusives it has.

Did Sony compete in the first 4 generations? Don't be a pedant.

@chadwarden
Doesn't change the facts. Didn't win last gen. Don't always win. Point made.

@badz149
There were 8 generations. They all weren't won by Sony. They didn't win all the ones they were in either. Disagreeing won't change these facts. MS hasn't won't any. Neither did NEC, GCE, Panasonic, Colecovision, 3DO, SEGA, Valve, etc.. Why single out Microsoft?

@XanderZane WTF?

that's the single stupidest comment in this article hands down!

so...by your logic MS has lost 8 gens in a row now? although they only competed in 3 of them? WTF?!

EDIT

I singled out MS because they are the one still relevant now. why the hell should I talk about NEC or Panasonic or Colocovison or even Sega? they all dropped out!

I guess you are thinking Michael Phelps is not THAT great either because he didn't win a single medal in the first 20 Olympics, right?

It's actually about 28 million if Mary Jo is correct and about Microsoft she usually is...and by Microsoft's very own words it's selling about 1.5 million Xbox one units shipped in to stores every sales Quarter except for sporadic sales spikes here and there when it gets to 2.6 per sales Quarter!

Exactly @ badz149, Mary Jo gave the numbers at 18 million Sold through in Jan 2016 there is no way they have sold through an additional 12 million already this year! When Microsoft is not even yet able to average not even 10 million a year..we are talking near 8 million a year here..

Not a bad idea, lol but no. gifts and 2ps4s and pro for myself.

Then it's appreciatable. If there's a word like that.

I heard Fable absolutely sucked. The last couple of games were terrible. That's what I heard. I'm not surprised they canned Lionhead.

fable imo was one of the good franchises Xbox had but I didn't like the idea of the new online mp one they were making. they should have made a straight up traditional fable and it would have sold a bunch. instead they closed studio

When you have official PS3 and XBox 360 sales numbers, please let us know. Sony & Microsoft have given any since 2013 & 2014.

@gamerswin24
Weren't available to the public and haven't seen any sites post total official sales figures from Sony & Microsoft for the PS3 and XBox 360 since 2014. Provide me some links with official numbers from Sony & Microsoft up to June 2016? I'll wait. Butthurt? lmao!! I own all the consoles. No reason to be butthurt. Seems you're butturt. "Wii was priced % lower then PS3? lol!! PS3 lost. Don't be butthurt dude.

Xander....

Sorry if your butthurt but my comment stands. NPD, U.S. numbers and such were available every month last gen:) and ps3 was outselling Xbox 360 worrld wide every single month. This is all public, common knowledge but thanks for the chuckle :) Only places Xbox was selling more last gen was U.S. and U.K. which does not equal the world. Here's some salt though.

Xander ..here you go as in 2013:

TOKYO, Nov. 6, 2013 — Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. (SCE) today announced that cumulative sales of the PlayStation 3 (PS3) computer entertainment system has reached a milestone of 80 million units*1 worldwide as of November 2, 2013. Now in its seventh year, the PS3 system has demonstrated continued growth and momentum.

http://gematsu.com/2013/11/...

Let's put it in a perspective, in that point The PS3 is still about 7 to 9 million unit sales per year yes even now!

The PS3 units are and is still being shipped to retail stores still in production, the Xbox360 production officially ended already this past summer... So it's moot the Xbox360 production is no more while the PS3 is still being produced on a manufacturing level.

That's one location, not world wide @ XanderZane, again Microsoft's completely stopped Production world wide on xbox360 production..Sony has done no such thing ..the date of your link...look at it...

HAS SONY STOPPED MAKING ITS PLAYSTATION 3 CONSOLES?
MARCO COCOMELLOOCTOBER 3, 2015

PlayStation 3 are still being shipped to retail in Major cities even now..so sorry it's not the same thing..that means also since Microsoft has completely stopped production and Sony has not ...and Sony is selling 7 to 9 million PS3's a year...I doubt very much Microsoft can even claim leadership of most sold between xbox360 over the PS3 even now...because the PS3 was able to cut a deficit of at one time 8 million lead to not only zero but actually win...

Stastics of no production vs active production = Active production and still shipping product vs none being produced or shipped = a loss for claim ... That is if you still think Microsoft's so called shipped lead of 4 million would have withstood a continue production product , while they themselves stopped production?

Sorry but I'm not buying it ...

@joerc
Yes, they sold 80 million PS3. That's official and...
XBox 360 sold 84 million June 2014 - http://www.gamespot.com/art...

Now get me some current official numbers from Sony and Microsoft.

Sony has also started shutting down production of PS3 as well. http://pixelvulture.com/201...