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Microsoft Is Facing Its Biggest Challenge Since The Launch Of The Xbox One

Xbox Achievements: "At E3 in 2014, Microsoft took to the stage to announce the future of the Xbox One - it was a conference designed to excite, to intrigue, to lay out Microsoft’s plan for console domination. It contained premieres of Crackdown 3, Fable Legends, Project Spark, Phantom Dust and Scalebound. Fast-forward 2 years, however, and the landscape is a very different one. Of the aforementioned 5 games, 4 of them are dead in the water, and the other one… well, who knows when we’re going to see it? Microsoft is clearly facing its biggest challenge since the botched launch of the Xbox One: making the Xbox One a relevant platform for gamers."

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PhoenixUp2651d ago

Xbox One is already a relavant platform for gamers

Lennoxb632651d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

According to your disagrees, not on N4G.

@Spenok
I wasn't speaking against him. I know Xbox is still a relevant console. Just that on N4G, it's taboo to even say so. smh

Spenok2649d ago

Being mostly a Playstation gamer myself, the mentality you point out doesn't make any sense. It's clearly relevant, just not as popular. Sales of its main competitor and list of available games (I.E. the support from 3rd party developers.)

It's actually kind of annoying people would rather let their feeling guide them than the truth.

Razzer2649d ago

You get too hung up on agrees/disagrees

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Unspoken2649d ago

4th opinion piece submitted by Overload about the demise of Xbox. Does he just surf the net for negative press on XBOX and turn to N4G to try and validate his opinions? LoL

MS isn't going anywhere and we are going to notice a change after Scorpio is released. The power alone will be enough to get devs to tailor to it and more devs will be willing to make deals with MS for it. 2nd, games that were shut down were shut down for a reason. Games get shelved all the time even on Sony side.

After the strong releases last year I'm looking forward to Halo Wars 2 and then will hold off expectations until Scorpio is released which is were the renewed focus will be.

Eonjay2649d ago

Stop hating on N4G. The world has made PlayStation the winner, not N4G. Bring that the world is so heavily in favor of PS4, why are you surprised to see the same thing when you go online?

andrewsquall2649d ago

No its not. Its paranoid freaks like YOU that play some sort of weird underdog/victim game. Just STOP it already. Its like you are trying to be all high and mighty saying there aren't Sony haters on here or something.

RedPill862649d ago

On N4G people are too stupid to notice that, as a whole, software sales are down across the board. But in terms of hardware Microsoft is outperforming the 360 (so it's doing well in that department, for a FACT). Sony obviously really outdoing themselves compared to the PS3.

These kids have no idea what makes a platform "relevant". The PS4 sells more hardware units and all of the sudden everything else is garbage. The Wii U and 3DS actively selling more software would like to have a word with that moronic idea.

_-EDMIX-_2649d ago

Well according to its sales it's definitely not as relevant as PlayStation 4

starchild2649d ago

"The world has made PlayStation the winner, not N4G"

You say that as if it excuses all the trolling that goes on here. I prefer the PS4 out of all the consoles, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go ruthlessly attack all the other platforms every chance I get.

I mean, look at that. A guy simply says the Xbox is a relevant gaming platform and he gets over a hundred disagrees. The bias and outright hate is insane. And it was the same way here even when the PS3 had sold less than the Xbox 360, so it really doesn't have anything to do with sales. Not like that would excuse such behavior anyway. Being a fan of something and being a hateful, intolerant fanboy are two completely different things.

A product doesn't have to sell as well as another option to be relevant. Look at the smartphone market where iOS has around 15% of the market and Android has most of the rest. There's a much larger disparity there but iOS is still a very relevant smartphone platform.

The fact that millions of people choose to game on the Xbox One and the vast majority of third party developers put their games on it is evidence enough that the Xbox One is a relevant gaming platform. That some people are even debating this is absurd.

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PhoenixUp2651d ago

Indeed, but so what?

N4G =\= majority of mainstream gaming

Lennoxb632651d ago (Edited 2651d ago )

I know that. I was just saying. Anything even remotely positive about Xbox on N4G and it's automatic disagrees.

DigitalRaptor2651d ago (Edited 2650d ago )

@ Lennoxb63

Well a lot of people think and still believe Xbox is a joke right about now, that Phil isn't really doing such a great job with the games despite the praise that has been showered with since taking over, and that it's not so relevant when, to them, a gaming console with no exclusive games is not worth buying. Regardless, Microsoft have set themselves up for a bruising since the reveal event, and deserve more criticism now than ever after closing most of their first-party studios last year and cancelling a highly anticipated exclusive game after hyping it up for years. N4G used to be a haven for Sony PlayStation hate if you cast back far enough and care not to rewrite history.

ShadowKnight2649d ago

@Digitalraptor

I totally agree

mcstorm2649d ago

@DigitalRaptor I get what your saying but to say "a gaming console with no exclusive games is not worth buying" is subject to what type of gamer you are.

For me the PS4 has far less games I want for it since launce than the Xbox one. The current line up of games there is only 1 I really want. That's not because I don't like sony just the type of games I like and want to play.

This site is just becoming a PS fan boy site look at the slating the Switch is getting just shows it. Nothing bad is being said about Sony and they have done plenty of things wrong but never picked up on this site. No console is perfect and never will be.

Imalwaysright2649d ago

@ DigitalRaptor

"N4G used to be a haven for Sony PlayStation hate if you cast back far enough and care not to rewrite history."

Bullshit!! N4g was more balanced back then. About the same amount of 360 and PS3 fans. Now this website is Sony fanboy lair where anything that doesn't have the Playstation logo attached to it is constantly criticized be it PC, Wii U/Switch or Xbox.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2649d ago

@DigitalRaptor
Well let's be fair to Phil Spencer. He doesn't have the final "say so" when it comes to his annual budget or what projects the Xbox division is allowed to take on and pursue. Phil Spencer is nothing more than Satya Nadella's mouth piece, assigned to do PR and damage control for the Xbox division. It's clear that even if Phil Spencer wanted to invest in new games and new development studios he wouldn't be able to without Nadella's approval. If something isn't making Microsoft money it's going to get pushed aside. Xbox fans just need to accept this reality.

1Victor2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

@ digital raptor ether your have selective memory or you just join this site 2 years ago to say this site is a Sony heaven /s
Go back to last gens and you'll see that this site have always mirrored the serious gaming community last was Microsoft this is Sony so learn to live with it or move on.
Microsoft have never cared about the gaming community all they see is the money they can make off it ask yourself this why is it that they with all the billions have way less than 10 first party developers while Sony and Nintendo got more than 10 closing in the 20+, they care about the gaming community (Sony/ Nintendo )they buy small developers and grow them into power houses (naughty dog) they take risk (little big planet), Microsoft in the other hand have closed some of their few developers (nothing wrong with that if they're not producing good games) cancel games, they rely on forza halo gear to get them through their gen like the 360 but this time gamers got wiser and said enough
Edit sorry about the rambling wall.
Edit 2 sorry digital raptor I put your name up there by mistake it was directed at Imalwayswrigt but I stand by what I said and agree with your other comments

trooper_2649d ago

@Lennox63

Just because people criticize Microsoft, doesn't mean they want them to fail.

Bigpappy2649d ago

Exclusive mean nothing to me as a gamer. As a fanboy it's good to say I havə it they don't. I buy the most confortabe console for me. As long as it gets supported

BizarroUltraman2649d ago

@spectre,

Except here on N4G they do!

Phantom682649d ago

Well said @DigitalRaptor

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senorfartcushion2649d ago

Welcome to N4G.

Very much a Playstation-oriented website.

Slightly understandable because the Ps4 has sold more than the Xbox but disgraceful because: fanboyism is the football hooliganism of gaming.

UCForce2649d ago

Same goes with you. If N4G site run by Xbox oriented, you would do the same thing, wouldn't you ?

Ju2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

Oh please. I just got me an XBox 1s - actually first time ever - and actually it is worse than I expected. I mean the games are ok. But really, all I bought this for is Gears and Forza, not even sure if I want Halo (not a big fan, but I will get me all those as well eventually). The biggest games I want to play are actually all 360 games (that's how much they released on the One, depressing). QB will eventually end up in my library and maybe a handful more.

What really got me though is how bad the Dashboard is. Really? Why don't we hear much about this? The front end is an absolute mess, cluttered with useless stuff (advertising) with the games library - you know, the reason why you buy that thing - is hidden somewhere beneath. The user experience is just sluggish. Pressing the X button in games takes seconds (!) to actually come back to the dashboard. The store is a hot mess as well. It is dog slow and so unorganized it's not even funny. How can a multi billion $ company with 10th of thousands of employees not create a proper user experience. Really? If you want to know how it's done, go look at Steam Big Picture (I am not even saying PS4 - this blows this out of the water as well). Downloads are not faster than on my PS4 (both wired to a 1GB fiber). And yet, the XB has 1 (!!!!) download and queues the rest, while the PS4 has at least 3 simultaneous connections! That BD drive is so slow that I have to go some other place for an hour to get a game installed. Even downloads install faster. Man, I could go on and on...but, hey, it has XB Live!

Giving what I hear from XBoxers here all the time I wanted to see for myself. But really? That's what you have to put up every time you fire up a game? Frustrating. Thanks MS.

No Scorpio will fix this if they not completely come up with a new front end. If that stays as is, I will abandon this in a heartbeat.

Maybe PS people are more outspoken, maybe this is a PS site. But fact is, it is the much better console.

senorfartcushion2649d ago

No, I'm a real gamer. I don't "do" stupid fanboy nonsense.

rainslacker2649d ago

So what are your feelings on the Xbox oriented website this article came from?

Care to talk about the actual topic at hand, or will this whole thread be about PS fans instead of MS inability to have a compelling lineup of games for those of us with an Xbox.

senorfartcushion2649d ago

Also football hooligan-y....

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OrangePowerz2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

It is a revelant platform obviously because otherwise third party games wouldn't come out for it. All the canned first party games and studio closings don't instill a lot of confidence in their own software support. The thing is they always had less studios and a higher focus on making deals with other companies. That's harder to do when you are quite a bit behind the competition.

What will be interesting to see is how they handle the Scorpio. That needs to be priced competitively because some devs use solutions for the Pro that make it extremely difficult to see the difference between native 4K and their upscaled 4K while still having a relatively low price.

Ju2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

I agree. MS will market the sh!t out of it, obviously. But giving my XB1 experience I won't be falling for that. And if they won't bring any more exclusives (and ditch the One), I see absolutely no reason to upgrade to a worse experience with the minimal visual upgrade to my Pro - especially if I can play those 3 exclusives on my 1s. I am curious how the comparisons will go once the Scorpio will be released..

Obscure_Observer2649d ago

@Ju

"I am curious how the comparisons will go once the Scorpio will be released.."

The Xbox One S already run some games better than the original X1 and is only a little bit more powerful. When Scorpio vs PS4Pro games start to popup, trust me, you´ll see difference. Then the goal posts will change. Now people are saying the diffence will not be noticiable, but when comparisions start at Digital Foundry, some people will come up with lame excuses like. "it´s not a upgraded Xbox One. Its an all new next gen console"

Mark my words! ;)

MRMagoo1232649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

@obscure

Phil himself said it was a new gen.

And I guess you will also be calling out the "graphics don't matter" crowd that think the extra 2 frames the Scorpio gets and the extra 20p rez it gets will be earth shattering ? .....rhetorical btw because it's obvious you won't call out the xbone hypocrites.

look at senor fart for example "I don't do stupid fanboy nonsense" yet his comments just before that was fanboy nonsense 😂

all you fanboys are as bad as each other and you all look stupid to the gaming community.

btw good luck with the pro vs Scorpio analysis cos I have a feeling you will be on suicide watch after launch.

Ju2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

The 1s runs games marginally better than the original, and still worse the the slim PS4. I got an s model instead of the old one - but in all seriousness, I am not sure why I did that. It's so bad I could have as well have saved another $75 and got me a $179 standard XBO - if most of the games I play are XB360 anyway...LOL. But at least I now have an UHD BD player - which I will probably never use (and, I have to admit, I am not streaming 4K video, either. Maybe later. But it's too much bandwidth - and I have Gigabit Fiber).

And, in all honesty, I have a 4K TV at one place, and I am comparing BF1 (which this came with) on the S vs. the PS4 Pro. And while there is a difference, it isn't really prohibiting, or so pronounced that I would go with one over the other.

The sub 1080 is still very visible on the XO, though, if you want to be nit picky. Maybe I got so used to not have jaggies any more (OMG, Forza...ugh) I don't know.

The thing is, I think the Pro will do just fine. The games on Scorpio will be almost indistinguishable from the ones on the Pro when it is already hard to make out the difference between PS4 and Pro.

If the user experience stays the same (Dashboard et all), and I still can play the handful of games on the 1s I will give a rats about what the Scorpio can do. Especially if it'll be more than $399.

OrangePowerz2649d ago

Obscure, since you refer to Digital Foundry. If you watch some of their videos you will notice that some games with the pro patch use software solutions in combination mit post processing that make it even hard for them to tell the exact resolution to a degree where games look very close to 4K for games where they quickly added pro functionality to have them for launch. Meaning in those instances a normal user won't see the difference between native 4K and upscalled. If MS does opt for native 4K a lot of the extra power will be gone and used for that without really any difference for the player and the mainstream will be even less likely to notice the difference.

It would probably be smarter to go with a sub 4K native resolution and use temporal injection like R&C and use the extra power to crank up effects, details, etc. In general we know the TFLOPS and the Memory bandwidth that MS gave, but GPU and CPU clockspeeds are still unknown and so is what and how much RAM they use and their actual configuration. Based on the Memory bandwidth and TFLOPS provided, if you extrapolate the data using those you would probably get to 4K, retain the same FPS as the normal X1 version (if the X1 runs at 1080p 30fps the Scorpio most likely will run at 4K 30fps) with maybe slightly increased graphics presets.

You also have factors like how much money someone wants to spend on making it more shiny since all it will have the lowest install base and if the price is too high it won't grow fast. The games still need to run on all the other console versions and from what MS said there won't be Scorpio exclusive games either. They still need to detail how things actually work, like is it just one disc for both consoles or would the Scorpio get it's own discs, etc. It's too early to say if it deserves to be called a nee generation without details.

They don't have exclusive games anymore either since everything now also comes out on PC so if you really want to have the best graphics and play MS games you can just get a PC.

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Mrveryodd2649d ago

Disagrees , wow .... So there is. 118 people who no nothing about what a console is.... And this is a gaming site ... Wonder why there here?

Trekster_Gamer2649d ago

All the fanboy dumbass disagrees…

angelusbrz2649d ago

without the third party supports, it would be even less popular than the Wii U...

Lonnie182648d ago (Edited 2648d ago )

More like a irreverent redundant console that spews out same games every year lol!

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DigitalRaptor2651d ago (Edited 2651d ago )

When Xbox sites are writing this, you can no longer dismiss it as "haters gon hate".

Microsoft closed 8 of their first-party studios/projects in March last year.
That was an early warning sign that a lot of people, I noticed, ignored completely.

Scalebound was cancelled and loyal fans are wondering why a fuss is being made now because of that one externally developed game. Well, that's because when you put this information into perspective and look at 2017's lineup of exclusive games on the Xbox, it's not a pretty sight. Not for a platform holder going into its 4th year on the market. They certainly aren't going to want to market this as the "worst lineup in Xbox history" but they'll do what they can with Scorpio's strengths this holiday.

Microsoft's problem though, is that they have downsized and cut away a large force of their internal development and now rely on third-party for exclusivity more than they did already. Now, the games that you might have expected to see sequels too from early in the generation (Sunset Overdrive, Ryse) are not getting sequels because MS doesn't want to make it happen and those teams will not work with them again. The same will be said for Quantum Break and whatever team was working on ReCore. If Crackdown 3 is coming out this year, then they need to do SOMETHING with it cause we've seen what amounts to nothing and the beta was supposed to be last year. Sea of Thieves is looking increasingly more likely to not release outside of open beta this year. Another Forza game is expected, but after that.... after the games that were delayed for years from the Don Mattrick era I believe... are we seriously expecting crazy amount of AAA exclusives to fill the void outside of Halo/Forza/Gears?

Lennoxb632650d ago

Well, Digital you were never a big fan of Xbox before or after any of the cancellations and/or closures. You were not going to purchase a system nor it's games so it doesn't really make much difference for you anyway. So where's the concern coming from?

I won't sugar coat it though. Xbox doesn't have much this year. But that's only as far as we know of. Thing is, whether MS had 100 exclusives this year, or none. It still wouldn't have made you jump. Your hate for Xbox is pretty well documented.

tyasia02650d ago

A lot of people feel this way you can't just dismiss it so easily.

lastking952649d ago

Well said, not like he was gonna jump in rather it was the best lineup in history or worst lol. It's the false concern that annoys me.

Rude-ro2649d ago

Microsoft is hated, not Xbox.
Microsoft comes from a history of monopolizing other businesses out of existence.
Everybody was nervous when they entered the console business.
The 360 was a good show of how they monopolize but not many noticed at first.
Gamers are asking that Microsoft either become a gaming company or stick with their tiny core base and provide for them BUT leave monopolizing and dirty media tactics out of console gaming.

Like this year with the Scorpio, a large base of consumers are concerned that a desperate Microsoft is an ugly dangerous Microsoft and they will try and do more deals with third party developers to try and entice people since they do not make games and with Microsofts history, they go after things with large attachment like tomb raider.
This is not providing, this is monopolizing.

bluefox7552649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

Maybe he wasn't, but he echoes the concerns of people like me who HAVE owned Xbox in the past, and WOULD have bought an X1 this gen. at least before the "exclusives to PC" move (not a complaint, I think that part is great, for me at least). Or at least that was my mindset back when I thought Scalebound was coming out (I like fantasy style games, and was impressed that Xbox was venturing out beyond their typical shooter/racer game). Just because people get frustrated with the decisions of MS regarding Xbox, doesn't mean they want them to fail.

Regardless of what you think of Raptor, he's making legitimate points that a lot of people outside of die hard fanboys share a concern for. The fact that you and a handful of others dismiss his comments because you don't like the source is silly. Tell him why he's wrong. Why does someone have to own or plan to buy an Xbox to have an opinion on it?

gangsta_red2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

Lennoxb63 and Obscure_Observer is right, even if DigitalRaptor is making some good points, but it is still hard to take him or the ones like him serious. Considering they have made it their N4G career to be over critical and bad mouth anything that isn't Sony related.

Their argument(s) always and consistently shifts in favor of anything negative towards MS and Xbox.

They complain about no new IP's and when MS does announce any then the complaint becomes, they're not from a first party studio, or sales of the title, or what was the metacritic score. They can never be satisfied, even when they have no interest in the console.

It's one excuse after another from certain people on this site and when something eventually does blow up from MS then they are right there writing paragraphs on paragraphs about it.

The thing is when Sony closes a studio or cancels a game or anything that they slammed MS for, they are no where to been seen or heard. Maybe a comment of "this sucks" or "I'm sad" but no where near the level of concern they have when MS does it.

Now here's the other strange part. Why the extreme concern over a console they don't own?

Yes, Xbox has a lot more concerns than PS4 at the moment and it's pretty evident, but it is hard to take certain members on this site serious when they are quick to jump on and celebrate any bad news that comes their way about a competing console.

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Why o why2649d ago

Sounds like people are quick to shoot the messenger. Like the dude or not, the points are valid and wouldn't sting any less even if they came from a team X member. Guys on n4g gravitate to negative news when it concerns the competition.....See Spellbound, See NMS. The problem seems to be some manufacturers give more reasons than others to be chastised.

If the points are valid, they are valid

ChozenWoan2649d ago

The sad part is that focusing on whether or not Raptor (or any other poster) currently owns an XB1 is more important to you than whether MS's actions are encouraging gamers to Jump-in. Without exclusives, no platform (except PC) can expect to draw in new gamers. While I myself am a PC/PS gamer, Scale bound and Quantum Break had me tempted to Jump-in into a used XB1 to help justify such an investment. Now I dont see any game that could do that let alone put my faith into MS to properly support Scorpio, and Im sure many who Jumped-out feel the same.

Nathan_Hale532649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

I would be concerned of competition. Don't disregard his statements because he is very true.

Godmars2902649d ago

@gangsta_red:
"Their argument(s) always and consistently shifts in favor of anything negative towards MS and Xbox."

Maybe because they often do things that are exclusionary?

Buying timed exclusivity for the second new TR while presenting it like the'd outright bought it for one. That they did the same to GTA DLC is why things became the way they are. Then there's the "MS can do no wrong" that does effect the rest of the industry. For the longest Sony fans complained about XBL Gold because they knew Sony would do the same, but when Sony does the Xbox fans gloat about it as if all of the prior complaining never was a thing.

BIGBOSS082649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

Saying " you was never going to buy the system" is stupid. Maybe ask the reason why him and so many others think the same. There are reasons as why.. its Microsoft job to sell us their system. My personal reason is ps4 is simply superior and there's isn't a single game on xbox that I must play.. Microsoft need to give us reasons to go and get an xbox one just like sony made the ps4 a must own system.

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Obscure_Observer2650d ago (Edited 2650d ago )

@DigitalRaptor

Thing is you are not a Xbox gamer and you never will be no matter what. Is hard taking you guys seriously when you put so much time, hate and negativity towards anything isn´t Sony related.

Where all of your criticism towards Sony back when Yoshida canceled a high profile open world sci fi AAA game from Santa Monica? Or closed studios like SOE, Evolution and now the 20 year old Guerrilla Cambridge?

No one is denying anything. Scalebound cancellation sucks and the future of Xbox One exclusives (first, second or third party) doesn´t look good right now.

But you fanboys are part of problem not the solution. You blame Phil for every MS missteps and give MS higher ups credit when something remotely good happens to Xbox. I mean, if you guys want Phil to get fired so bad, why are you not suggesting someone better to take his job?

Because you don´t want MS (or Nintendo) to succed and give Sony (and Nintendo) a fair competition to keep them in check.

MS didn´t invested billions in this market to lose. Right now their are fully aware of their situation. And if they choose to ignore it, they better leave the industry all together.

tyasia02650d ago (Edited 2650d ago )

"they better leave the industry all together."

P.S. No one hates Nintendo

Liqu1d2649d ago

SOE weren't closed, they were sold. People were pissed when Evolution were shut down and people weren't happy when Guerrilla Cambridge were closed. Santa Monica's game was never shown to the public and people were still annoyed by it.

"But you fanboys are part of the problem"

I agree, you are part of the problem so just stop.

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UCForce2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

@Barricade_BE is right. MS closed LionHead Studio and cancelled Fable Legend which was a mistake, but here the worst part, Lionhead and MS had a rough relationship. And for Sony, Despite Evolution Studios have been closed by Sony, but their relationship weren't broke apart like Lionhead and MS. I'm not making this up. I read it on twitter back in 2016. Scalebond cancelled was huge issues, because the game was the most anticipated Xbox One game of 2017. Even that, Platinum Games was excited about making this game.

Edit : One more thing, even GC closed by Sony, RIGS is a finished game and favored by fans. This wasn't huge disaster level like Scalebond was.

BizarroUltraman2649d ago

Thats what I say all the time but get same disagree results.

How do you give opinions on things you never try.

I get called fanboy and hater. But im one of the only dudes here giving opinion whos owned Xbox One and PS4. Now I only have PS4 Pro, but had Xbox since launch til a couple months ago.

Obscure_Observer2649d ago

@Liqu1d

"I agree, you are part of the problem so just stop."

Yeah man, whatever. I wasn´t talk to you anyway. And i won´t waste any of my time (or yours) talking to you any further.

Have a good week. ;)

MRMagoo1232649d ago

@bizzaro

So what you are saying is .......I have to eat a sh!t sandwich to give my opinion on whether it tastes like sh!t ?

Obscure_Observer2649d ago

@Barricade_BE

I agree with you. All of this sucks. I was looking foward to play both Fable and Scalebound and probably never will. I´m not sugar coating MS decisions. But since we don´t know all details i will reserve my judgments towards MS and Platinium. To me, seems Kamyia fail to meet deadlines and deliver que quality game everyone was waiting for. MS delayed the game, gave them more time to polish and fix issues.

It seems that wasn´t enough tough, Kamyia made an public apology (every informed game knows he is not that type of guy) to the fans.

Seems MS just don´t feel like they should continue to invest more money, time and resources on Scalebound development.

MS is fully aware of their situation right now, they know Xbox is lacking of new Ips and first party exclusives and studios. But Phil can only do much. He doesn´t own MS or have any control over shareholders.

My hopes lies with Phil to try and turn things a little better for Xbox and Xbox owners. This E3 will be crucial for Xbox and its community. I hope they deliver. ;)

trooper_2648d ago

So if you don't sing Microsoft's praises, you're not a gamer?

Microsoft screwed up, not the people criticizing their actions. Instead of pointing fingers, you should be driving the forums crazy for Microsoft to stop canceling games and introduce new IPs.

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Godmars2902649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

MS have always relied more on 3rd party devs than in house. Think their expectation has always been that by supplying a platform publishers, and consumers, would come to them because of brand name alone. Why else do you think Mattick thought that he could do what he did never expecting it to blow up in his face, as it literally blew up in his face.

But what gets me in the wake of Scalebound and most fans blaming Platinum for it, is that Spencer isn't any much better. He has the original XB1 launch as example, but he's still keeping with company mandates which puts it before consumers.

wutang4ever2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

it's what I call fanboy-ism violence, where MS is the abuser and x1 fanboys are the victims that keep coming back for more.

We need to do an intervention to help these fanboys.

rainslacker2649d ago

I'm hoping some of those loyal fans start putting more pressure on MS, instead of just hoping that all will be well as MS ramps up Scorpio's hype.

Us "haters" criticizing them apparently isn't going to help, so it's up to them to make my X1 worth starting more often.

System itself wouldn't be bad if I played my multi-plats on it(as in if it were my only system), but realistically, since the only reason I have it is for the exclusivees, it's all but pointless for me right now. I played the games that I already wanted to, SB was one and now can't play it, and Cuphead is the last thing left, and I could have lived without it.

Hopefully MS blows it away at E3. But then I'd just be annoyed they held things back for Scorpio, instead of giving better support to those customers that they already had.

It's like MS purposefully sabotages itself because they want any announcement they have of new products to look better. It's like they think that people don't remember, or that the internet will forget and not criticize the few years prior, questioning their credibitlity and reliability, and the only thing MS has going for it is some fans who act like MS hasn't gone downhill.

Truth be told, MS is worse off now than they were before the launch. Before, it was just about bad consumer policies. Now it's about uncompelling exlcusives that appeal to a wide range of people....and now, they appeal to a very narrow segment fo the market, which is going to have a ton of options for those kinds of games for this year from 3rd party.

But MS spent years not building a more compelling and diverse portfolio, and now even their 3rd party stuff is nothing but stuff that appeals to that very narrow segment of the market.

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kassler2650d ago

MS is putting all their hope at Scorpio.

tyasia02650d ago

That's going to be a mistake. The average gamer wants cheap. $500 and no games vs $250 and 6 games. And it's still not going to sell in Europe and Asia

XXanderXX2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

Thank god am not an average gamer.
@tyasia0 not buying millions of consoles ,but yet have no issue with the price or want it lowered .
Price seem reasonable enough, like stated early I don't consider myself to be an average gamer.

tyasia02649d ago

Well unless you plan to buy millions of consoles I don't think you matter.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2649d ago

If Scorpio is more than $500 Microsoft better start preparing for a lot of backlash and trolling from the internet.

Lennoxb632649d ago

Would anything have changed?

ILostMyMind2649d ago

And if it less it will not be "the monster" that M$ claims to be.

gangsta_red2649d ago

"better start preparing for a lot of backlash and trolling from the internet."

They've been prepared since 360.

XanderZane2649d ago

Prepare? Isn't that already happening in spades. Especially on this site. Any news, positive, neutral or negative about MS or XBox on here gets BBQ's.

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MRMagoo1232649d ago

awwww 😭 all you poor xbone fannies having to watch MS be critiqued.....it must be such a hard fanboy life you guys all lead with negative news constantly. how do you guys manage to survive the Internet........you do all realise these articles are written by websites not by n4g and they are the general consensus on the gamers mind not some n4g plot. these articles don't magically appear they are written by people not made up on n4g.

you guys need to see reality, Xbox isn't as popular as Playstation it never will be get the f#@k over it already. btw if negative news annoys you all so much get MS or your God Phil to fix the problems.....its a no brainer so you can all understand it. no problems no negative articles.

I have been here since 2007 I am pretty sure and the fanboy wars have always been here cept last gen it was 360 fanboys instead running the show till the gen was about half way through.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

@XanderZane
A console being more than $500 would not be good news and sane people don't downplay good news. See Rookie Monster.

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SaveFerris2650d ago

MS knows what it is doing. Play Anywhere, UWP, and Scorpio are all part of a master plan and not just a knee-jerk reaction to the PS4, as was the closure of a number of first party studios. I'm not sure what the plan is, but companies like MS don't make major decisions like these without one.

tyasia02650d ago (Edited 2650d ago )

None of the third parties are using UWP or play anywhere and Microsoft's game lineup certainly aren't pushing it very far.

Last year Windows store was less than 1% of total PC software sales.

XanderZane2649d ago

One of the many reasons XB1 games don't need to be on PC. If it's not making them a huge amount of money, what's the point? Microsoft should make exclusive PC games and exclusive XB1 games. That would make more sense.

WeAreLegion2649d ago

You're right. The plan is to get out of game development.

trooper_2649d ago

So the master plan is to cancel games and piss off your userbase?

Okay, good to know. 😁

Ju2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

Maybe. But they sure don't know how to create a straight forward user interface which doesn't require a mouse and they sure don't know how to put the consumer first, not their corporate interests.

frostypants2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

We've been hearing of MS's ever-evolving "master plans" for Xbox for 15 years now. They never seem to work out, and the One has seemed one fiasco after another since day one.

At this point it doesn't seem like they're going for living room media dominance OR games. It's not clear what they're trying to do at all. It's like they stopped flip-flopping, threw up their hands, and just said "eff it". Money isn't everything, but they need to spend more and cast a wider development net.

What's the contingency plan if Sony shocks everyone and unveils plans for the PS5 next summer? Scorpio better have some serious games, else such a thing could be the final kick in the nuts. Don't doubt that Sony senses weakness here.

rainslacker2649d ago

I think we saw the master plan when MS announced their hardware before this gen started. They were just premature and skipped a few steps to try and make it happen.

MS master plan is, will be, and always has been, complete control.

That being said, MS is capable of having a very long term plan, and seeing things years beyond even the most astute analyst. But I think they can't capture the gaming industry they way they want because they don't actually have the software or compelling reasons to actually pick them over the competition. When you look at other segments of their business(outside windows where they are just the default for the most part), they actually are competitive with their products, and do what they have to do to keep people using their products. But then you look at their phone hardware, and they offered nothing to make it compelling. Didn't look for support, dodgy updates, buggy OS, etc. Now, with Xbox, they don't have the support except in areas which push Live or Windows in some way, in house game production is at an all time low since they became a console maker, and they are incapable of getting the compelling exclusive support.

Until MS can manage to give gamers what they want, Games, they will not achieve their goal, and I think they are looking to consolidate their PC business with the console business, to try and redefine the console space, so they can capitalize on it through Windows Store....thus...gain control.

pyroxxx2649d ago (Edited 2649d ago )

They want to have PCs turned into terminals, where you pay them for every application as a service every month,.. That is what they want,.. What they will get is their arses kicked out of console market, because their systems are kinda redundant,.. Hell as a publisher,.. they really don't have enough properties to justify their own system,.. and they haven't been building teams either,.. They will fail hard and justifiably so.

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PGRfox2649d ago

They've allocated too many recourses/money to Scorpio.

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