Gamers - we want more games more exclusives

Microsoft - here's some new hardware

So out of touch

@septic: hahaha that gif is A+ hilarious.

@Septic

I gotta say... I have always viewed you as a rabid fanboy of MS, but I gotta give credit where credit is due. I have a lot of respect for the fact that you have been calling out MS on their BS lately.

We all, as gamers, need to hold all of these companies feet to the fire, and it seems like all of us may get caught up in which brands we like, but we all need to stand up to unacceptable practices, and take an objective view of our gaming companies so that we can call them out on what they may be doing wrong, so that we can better the gaming industry as a whole.

Microsoft reps loves to lie and it's just ridiculous. I like the xbox brand a lot but I'm hopping off the xbox train because of the lack of exclusive titles and the lies and promises of new games coming. A lot of the fanatical fanboys are big liars like the Microsoft reps that would lie about the xbox and it's games or games that suppose to come soon.

Imagine if Microsoft didn't waste a billion dollar to bring out the xbox one x but use that money to open new studios and make new exclusive titles. Fanatical Xbox fanboys have been talking about playing old games in 4k or multiplatform titles in 4k which is nice but there aren't any exclusive titles or new ops coming anytime soon for Xbox one x. Xbox one x is a failure and it's not even out yet

Lol well i guess size is relative

@G-haul

Let's go through memory lane shall we...

Let's go with ALL the sites that were created to show, "where to play the best version*patten pending:Microsoft", differences of third party bloc busters last gen... and then went away once this gen started. Always stating how any difference was "HUGE".(digital foundry:patten pending).
Then how now digital foundry, the only real big comparison site left(rip lens of (Microsoft)truth), never sees a big difference but let's compare PS4 to pc and rip it apart.
Let's go with microsofts marketing dollars campaigning "where to play the best version"..

PS4 players mocked the price and the hard time for microsofts new gen console to reach 900p and at the 3 year drought the 360 had due to Kinect and then revealing the new gen with absolutely nothing new.

You will also remember that 40% of psplus subscribers for the first year of this gen was new accounts. Couple that with the huge gain for Sony in the gaming market spells out the players jumped ship way before "graphics" was the reason... it was due to games.

Let Microsoft put a 4k sheen on this gen games... they still will not be as much or as good as the games and game engines Sony develops, co-create, or fund.
It's that simple.
If a major Microsoft person is literally standing there boasting about exclusives... that is literally spitting on every person that owns their console.
They got called out for monopolizing third party games in order to have exclusives and proving for not being an actual gaming company.
You can not name one AAA new first party game in the last 7 years. 7 years. That is absolutely crazy.

Damn Greenberg.... how could you say that with a straight face?

I mean maybe on some alternate way of spinning things they may be partially right. Gears is a pretty big exclusive, Forza too and Halo is probably their biggest. Those three right there are probably the biggest exclusives Xbox has.

Come on man, I want new takes on old games if they arent going to give us any new games. How about some long overdue sequels to games like Stubbs the Zombie, Crimson Skies, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Blinx....

Gears 2 is better the Bloodbourne
A 360 exclusive

Maybe he was referencing file sizes for the new XboxoneX games?!
(Heh heh)

“The great thing as a gamer is no matter if you’re a fan of RPGs, or racers, or shooters, no matter what kind of game you like, these games are going to look and play better on Xbox One X,”

ummmmm first get some of the JRPG's on your system so they can look good. Then we can talk. Not talking ARPG's but traditional turn based JRPG's.

I think what Greenberg means is they have the biggest in terms of file sizes. /s Marketing people are like politicians. If they say something enough times they convince themselves it's true. PR means Public Relations. But nowadays PR is more synonymous with spin, lying, etc.

You just got 123 likes , and you gave out false information. You said " none of those exclusives released have toped the reception of Bloodborne yet." Look at the sales of Halo 5, and look at the sales of Bloodborne.....I'll wait!

The only PS4 exclusives that sold we'll we're Horizon, and Uncharted; 8 million+, and 3.8 mil respectively. Nioh, Personna, Street Fighter, Nier, etc.. all hovers around the 1.1-1.8 milion mark. All of these great exclusives and less than 3% of PS4 owners are actually buying them. I know a lot of PS4 owners who doesn't have a clue as to what Persona, Nioh, Nier, is. I kind of see what he means because atleast 80% of Xbox owners knows gears, halo, and Forza. Heck, if you want to stick with the ORIGINAL PS exclusives; GOW, Grand Turismo, I'll throw in Uncharted, I don't think 80% of PS4 owners know about those games. I know it sounds mindblowing but the average CONSOLE owner is clueless, and I'm talking about all consoles. I know, as well as everyone on this site, that the PS4 lineup is insane, and alough he is delusional if he thinks Xbox has the beat exclusives, but as far Gears, Halo, and Forza goes, RELATIVE to how MANY xbox owners knows those titles. ....I kind of feel what he's saying. ALTHOUGH.....that's not what he meant.

@modelgod
Dude, those games you listed. Nier Nioh Persona, Horizon, they only came out a couple months ago. Don't go comparing the new kids' lifetime sales already vs Halo which is plural years old.

Ask yourself instead what came out in that same window this year on Xbox to compare realistically. The answer is Nothing. Well actually Halo Wars 2 did. And it bombed at only a couple hundred thousand sold. Where were those 80% of fans who you claim know Halo?

That's the issue. The attach rate on a nonexistent product will always be 100%. You can't brag about 100% of zero.

You forgot to mention infamous second son, KZ shadowfall, Bloodborne which are all near or past 3 million, the same as Gears 4 estimates. Ratchet is over 2 million as is Driveclub. Shoot if Forza is known by 80% of Xbox players as you say, why didnt FH2 sell 30 million? Why should Persona then? It's unrealistic

Was he being interviewed when he said this ? Because if he was then the interviewer should have called him out on such nonsense.

Christopher
That has everything to do with being the first to jump into the 7th gen . Had the ps3 been released at the same time , I doubt the 360 would have come even close to the success they had .

First, last, doesn't change the facts now. They are a main competitor now no matter how you look at it.

@Christopher and now they're back to being no one again. The only competition is between Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft just bring redundancy at this point.

They went from second place to third place. Sony came in, from nothing, and took first place with the first PlayStation.

3rd by what a million or less sales. Totally negligible amount. Some sites even have the 360 selling just higher but who cares. The 360 had the bigger selling exclusives over the PS3. Only the Wii had a higher selling exclusive. The 360 definitely did have its glory days. 2007 and 2008 specifically. Had almost double the software attach rate then any of its competitors. Had more game critics awards then anybody else and had the biggest exclusive released with Halo 3. After 2010 it was all down hill though with their focus shifting to Kinect.

360 did well those early years. The difference between PS3 and 360 in sales is about 1 million. 360 is the best Xbox brand has done and while yeah in the final total it sold last place, I don't think anyone ever considered it a failure like they do Xbox One. 360 was very competitive. Same can't be said for XBO at any point in its life.

You guys give Sony way too much credit. I think I even saw someone say Sony came in from "nothing". Okay, the PS2 was never a thing I guess. I also guess the first 3/4th of the last console generation were perfect too. Even during the red ring of death fiasco, 360 was STILL the console of choice. The best thing to happen to Sony was them getting hacked and PSN being offline for like a whole damn month. I'm dead serious too. That lit a HUGE fire under their ass and they started to actually do things. PS+ started to actually become something you wanted to sub for, good games finally started releasing, performance of games started to become acceptable, etc etc.
Without getting hacked, I think they would have continued to pump out mediocrity last generation. Kudos to whoever hacked Sony. Scared them straight.

What do you mean by 3rd? So you honestly would rather have a Wi over a Xbox 360? Don't let sales dilute you. Don't say 3rd when as real gamers we KNOW it's better than the wi. You sound stupid. I guess Vanilla Ice must be your favorite rapper since he sold so many units.

@benchmark
Wrong again. Big wrong

infamous 1 and 2 sold more than crackdown 1 and 2, uncharted 3 sold more than gears 3, GT5 sold more than every Forza ever, MGS4 sold more than Splinter Cell Convictuon, LBP sold more than viva piñata, NiNoKuni sold more than Infinite undiscovery, Heavy Rain sold more than, what crime drama did Xbox even have? GOW3 sold more than, man yeah what is there left by this point? Ninety nine nights lol? Jesus

You had Halo 3 and that's it. That is literally IT. Look it alllllll up on vgchartz at least before talking about bigger selling exclusives. FFS I haven't even mentioned TLOU yet! Gtfo with that alternate history

As he said it's basically the word "exclusives", although Sony did the same with PC/PS3/Vita games and they counted last gen. MS at e3 though had it in everything even if it's just "launch exclusive" and goes to other platforms later. It was the word around MS showings that mostly didn't mean much.

Its because when we say exclusives it implies quality, noteworthy exclusives. Its the implication.

Personally more excited for SOT, state of decay, crackdown, cuphead, forza etc over Detroit, Spider-Man, days gone, God of war, and turismo. I disagree because I'm excited for those games. Your comment feels baitey as well... and I bit on it. There you go.

I believe this was a dumb statement by Greenberg but sounding fanboyish isn't going to go far with nonfanboys

@BeOpenMinded...

The have Halo, Forza Gears... Cuphead, SOT, and SOD2 and Crackdown are what you wanna play? Good for you. But i’m being objective here. Xbox exlcusives aren’t that great.