DF: "Just how do Gran Turismo Sport and Forza Motorsport 7 compare graphically? John presents an in-depth analysis, showing the similarities and differences in the technology from Polyphony Digital and Turn 10 Studios."
Sony Interactive Entertainment has delisted Gran Turismo Sport from the PlayStation Store as of January 1, 2024.
The great digital future. Where games vanish. The benefits of digital just aren't enough over physical to every buy in 100 percent. Especially when my Atari games still work and can be played to this day over 40 years later. Some of these digital games don't even last a whole generation.
But in this case everyone who has it still has it
And they unlocked single player to be allowed to progress offline
But in the case of others, they can no longer can buy it or any delisted game. Just like online only games that get their servers turned off and there's no update for offline with bots.
If you like the idea of any digital game being delisted where it's no longer available at all, then you and others are fools. What's all that presentation bullshit guys like you spew?
There should be no reason any digital game should be removed. Ever.
Apocalypse no one likes it. But let's be clear here.
If you own the game, you still own it. All that's happening here is they are stopped selling it.
Why? I have no clue. But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm.
If you want to complain about servers for an online game being shut down, go ahead. But that's a separate topic and can happen to any online game even with a physical disc.
@Bathyj "But it's the exact same thing if your local best buy isn't stocking the disc anymore and Sony aren't making any more. Same thing, just in the digital realm."
It isn't the exact same thing at all. When a game gets a physical release, it is always available even if big-box retailers aren't selling it new anymore. For example, I can go on eBay today and buy a new & sealed copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS3, because it once had a physical release. However I cannot buy a copy of Transformers: Fall Of Cybertron for PS4 today, because it had a digital-only release and was delisted.
If Gran Turismo Sport had a digital-only release, it would be unavailable for anyone to buy ever again. But because it had a physical release, in 5 years someone that wants to play it can still acquire it.
I have only brought one or two digital games in my life
Everything I buy is physical
Often from eBay in perfect condition.
Sometimes from a online shop in uk such as
365games
Shopto.net
Simplygames
Base.com
All, who will ship disk to your door on day of release, cheaper than buying from digital store.
Then I either keep, lend, or sell. My choice
No where, did I say I support digital. And yet someone even called me a fool,
Haha
Totally misunderstood, some would say, he’s the fool
With GtSport It ISNT being taken away from anyone who already owns it. So this has all got out of hand with people not even reading the article
This one won’t though
Because it’s not de-listed and taken away from you
It’s just not on sale anymore and the multiplayer will be shut down soon I reckon. It released 2017 so it’s had a fair run of 5 years online multiplayer lobbies
@Purple, but it could be taken away, like p.t. Demo was, as well is taken away from anyone who didn't purchase GTsport in a digital form and yes I know we can still buy disc version and it's not a big of a deal.
My point is that you can't own something if it's not physical, with digital-only content you pay for the right to download and use and possibly in the future there will be some laws regulating you rights to it…
I mean y'all been whining about that since the ps3 era. To this day im still able to play all the games I payed for.
It won't. Fools like purple think that just because they can still download it now, that it's safe. I've bought multiple games on console and mobile that are no longer downloadable or function. Because the game was either delisted or since it was connected to the Internet, no longer works because the servers were shut down turning those games into coasters. With no update to be able to play some games offline with bots. They're gone.
He won't get it or care until it happens to him and some of his games are delisted and removed or don't work any more even if he "bought it "
If you don't keep your old consoles, your physical disk will be useless too. Do you think console hardware or disk drives will be around in 20 years. Good luck with that.
I'm not saying it's right btw, just pointing out to the physical crowd that digital and physical are very alike when it comes to actually being able to play the games in the future like 20 years time.
When I'm in my care home, I don't expect to be able to play my old digital or physical collection as consoles won't be around or disk drives for playstation.
Unless your keeping the old consoles safe in the attic over time, nobody will be playing there old physical game collections.
If you bought a physical launch day copy of GTS you still won't be able to download any of the updates in 20 years when servers are off.
Plus there will be no such thing as a disk drive or a hardware box for that matter in 20 years unless you keep your old consoles.
My point is sadly your physical or digital copy won't work.
I see this as the digital equivalent of physical games going out of print. They don't continue to make copies forever, at some point they will stop making it, usually when sales dry up and I guess for GT sport that happened some time ago. Also, in the digital world, storage space is not infinite. If a game is no longer selling, why would they waste space on keeping it available?
For those that already own the digital version, they will still have access to it.
I generally agree, but GT Sport is primarily an online game. They probably have some reluctance to deal with the blowback of selling an online-oriented game that may not have active servers much longer. Admittedly that's a whole other issue in itself.
Online based titles like this I wouldn't expect to last forever as the game has been updated iterations as in gt7
Same with if FIFA 20 was delisted as example there's update to game. If something like Uncharted collection was delisted then that's something that's bad
You pay stupid money for digital games and DLC, then it goes missing. Who's laughing?
On January 31, 2024, at 06:00 UTC, the online services of the PlayStation®4-exclusive software “Gran Turismo Sport” will come to an end.
Time to get a PS5! New PS5 owners in the USA can currently claim a game for free, but GT7 is not part of this promotion.
GT sport was good. Gt7 is better.
For someone who was crap at racers (and still is) and only played kart racers with powerups, I can say GT sport and gt7 balance SIM/ arcade racing to perfection. Easy enough for anyone to play and not crash but with enough depth to master for years.
Totally different to need for speed / Forza handling where the cars feel 'floaty'.
The dualsense is just supreme with gt7 toi
From Gran-Turismo.com (the article liked above): "All existing cars and personalized Car Settings kept in Garage will be accessible. Gameplay progression required as normal to unlock additional cars and items."
So... yes, as far as I can tell you'll still be able to use all your collected and purchased cars and race on all the tracks in the game and unlock ones you might not already have access to. That's what I'm getting from the post, but time will tell if this actually comes to pass February 1st, 2024.
After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.
Thats why i dont like online only games. Cant believe this, this game sold so well. You need to be a fanboy to keep supporting Sony after this. Bought this thinking that it would take 10 years for this. I'm lucky that there are enough classics and single players for a life time.
Looks like PD has the potential to set the bar for closing out always online games.
Back when GT Sport launched you couldn't do anything when you couldn't access the servers, but it looks like GT Sport will retain access to SP race modes, custom races, VR, your full garage, and all tracks. This is much more than what was available at launch if offline.
We still will lose custom liveries and race suits, which is nonsense, but hey if you share them online now they will be in the cloud and available to you in GT7 if you're interested. Basically, we lose MP, but players keep everything we earned and whatever was paid for.
30 of the world's top GT drivers arrive in Monaco after a highly competitive 2022 Series. They must now navigate a regional qualifying group featuring drivers from their home regions for a place at the Grand Final.
12 drivers from each respective group including the top three from Asia-Oceania, Americas, and Europe/Middle East/Africa groups, and the top three from the Repechage will qualify for the Grand Final.
After Turismo 4 on the PS2, the series was never the same. Although Turismo 4 wasn't a finished game and didn't play as good as Turismo 3. Turismo 5 on PS3 was a mess, Turismo 6 was Turismo 5 finished. Sport on PS4 was another mess, especially VR mode. Sort of back on track with Turismo 7, but so tiring as with the Forza series. Anyone remember the PSP version that had no championship mode? Turismo has always been average at best.
Damn Gran Turismo is a ambitious game, much better trees, dynamic shadows and insane cars detail.
Forza 7 also looks great, good time to love cars!
Jesus up close shots are more revealing of the headlights and hubcaps.
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Forza 7 straight murked. Talk about a knockout.
This analisis gives to GTS the advantage in details.
But when you have native 4k, 700+ vehicles and dinamic weather, much more tracks....does details means nothing.
Per the Video:
GT:
More detailed Cars.
Better crowds
Has actual pit crew
Better trees with lighting and shadowing
Better draw distances with scenery
Has better lighting.
Better shadows that are rendered in real time.
Better replay displays.
Forza:
Better texture resolution on the track.
Has the time lapse for time of day option.
Advantage over raw image quality
Has more cars in regular races (by 4).
Both:
Games have their own unique flourishes to each game.
Forza has tire walls with tires that react to a car hitting into it. Crashes have more visceral impact. Screen space sun shafts.
GT has lit particles while racing at nigh (dirt dust turning red from the brake light). And GT has sun glare.
Both cast real time shadows from headlights while racing at night.
Both handle reflections differently.
"Both games offer a good variety of highly detailed art but Forza has the advantage in terms of texture resolution of the track. While racing, this is difficult to notice, but it stands out when looking closely.
but it's clear that Forza 7 has a huge advantage in terms of raw image quality"
Forza 7 offers a huge range of circuits and track configurations, many with variable weather conditions. The environments are richly detailed with super high-resolution textures created using photogrammetry. It also features a huge selection of richly detailed cars, the number of which vastly exceeds its rival.
"Each one has its own advantages over the other in terms of visual quality but it's fair to say that neither one is short of gorgeous.
F7 support 4k assets and Textures gt sport doesn't.