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Can PS5 and Xbox Scarlett Truly Afford to be Discless?

The whole digital only fantasy is never coming true, sorry.

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sammarshall1022099d ago

No way. I prefer to own physical games and so does many others especially those with slow internet or data caps

fr0sty2098d ago (Edited 2098d ago )

I've bought one disc since I bought my PS4, everything else has been digital. About 50 games. So much easier to use...

sammarshall1022098d ago

I'd rather get up and change the disc than to trust all digital

Saigon2098d ago

I buy my exclusive games digital and my multiplat games on disk. To me, it is sensible to do. Now I am trying to find a BC PS3 to extend my collection a little further.

DarXyde2098d ago

You and I are clearly at odds on this.

I've been burned on digital media before and I'm not about to let that happen again.

JackBNimble2097d ago

How have you been burned on digital?
I get that people want physical games, and I am sure Sony and MS do as well. But explain how you have been burned on digital.

VincentCastle2097d ago

JackBNimble Most probably that the game was not as good as he thought it would be or towards his taste and so he cannot sell it or get a refund. Only recently did Microsoft offer a refund policy, Sony and Nintendo still offer no option. Plus digital is more expensive, should be the other way around.

Though i do get the appeal of digital and also get the appeal of physical. I only buy digital when it's on some massive sale.

JackBNimble2097d ago

I'm not advocating one format over another, that's what choice is for.
I asked a simple question that obviously won't be answered with an honest answer.

I highly doubt Sony or MS would go the discless route.... at least for next gen anyway.

DarXyde2097d ago

JackBNimble,

No, I'll answer you honestly. It's the internet, but I've never cared to lie, so here goes...

My experience does not relate to gaming, but it still demonstrates the potential for what happens with licenses. Once upon a time, I liked iPhones. I bought a lot of music through the Apple store. Apparently, there may have been a dispute between Apple and licensure, so what did they do? They literally removed all of the music from the artist from my device without my consent. It was even removed from iTunes on my computer. I called Apple and, no, I couldn't get a refund. If I recall, I was out about $100. Doesn't sound like much, but I basically just threw money at their coffers to get screwed.

Obviously, Apple is not Sony or Microsoft, but I hope you can see why I am not in favor of that kind of control.

JackBNimble2097d ago

Darxyde
So are you saying that you don't connect your console to the internet?
I only ask because you license is your physical copy, and that game still runs of the hard drive not the disc. If any dev/pub screw you with an update or whatever, having the physical copy isn't going to change a thing.
The only way to prevent your fears from coming true would be to never ever go online.

You're still actually digital, the only difference is you have a physical license key.

I'm not stating digital is better.... I'm just saying you just have a physical license.

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lxeasy2097d ago

I went all digital this gen and I love it

Einhander19712099d ago (Edited 2099d ago )

NO !! if that was the case backwards compatibility would be pointless especially as Microsoft as put so much effort into the program.

Cmv382098d ago

That's not exactly true. Digital games would still have to be able to be bc. I do hope all digital games are bc going forward, but I don't want an all digital future.

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Cobra9512097d ago

You missed his point. How are next-gen consoles going to be compatible with this gen, or with the one before it, if people can't insert discs into them? Without disc readers, a PS5 won't be able to play your PS4 physical collection, and an Xbox Next won't be able to play Xbox One or Xbox 360 discs.

robtion2097d ago

Digital is a nice option but technology is not good enough to remove physical. Many counties have frankly abysmal internet infrastrucure. Next gen games will be massive (many already are) and dowloading them is not viable for many people. No physical means cutting off a huge portion of the market currently. Maybe in a decade when internet infrastructure is better worldwide.

THC CELL2099d ago

When are people gunna get thru there thick skulls people like to own stuff they buys that means physically

combatcash2098d ago

While im on the same boat as you, I think younger generations are going to prefer digital downloads. We're not too far from an all digital world look at music I think I'm one of the few people who still purchases a CD. Lol

dumahim2097d ago

I see music differently. Music is sometimes passive, just something in the background and you can take anywhere. It makes sense for it to be digital. Games are different as someone usually plays them in the same spot or two in the home and require your attention. That doesn't mean it can't be digital, but it doesn't have as great of a reason to be.

lipton1012098d ago

I personally prefer digital so speak for yourself. It’s way more convenient and space friendly. I prefer a minimalistic look in my house

FITSniper2097d ago

Whatever helps you feel better.

mcstorm2098d ago

The cell that's not quite true. Look at dvd CD sales and the uptake in service like Google music, Netflix ect people are going down the digital rout even photos most people don't print anymore.
Digital will be how consoles go but I do think the next consoles will have disk drives in them but I do wonder if they will offer a none disk drive version to and bring the cost down

MatrixxGT2098d ago

I mean, how much does a disc drive cost? Especially at the manufacture price. Probably the cheapest component in the box.

rainslacker2098d ago (Edited 2098d ago )

I wish one would offer a discless option. It'd be nice to see if those systems sell. If they do, then there is a good market, and people can shut up about it. If they don't, then we can see more people prefer physical, and people can shut up about it.

Either way, its win win.

That being said, if any company goes completely digital, they'd fail pretty hard if they start next gen. Even MS knew they need to keep physical around for their digital vision at the start of the gen.

mcstorm2097d ago

MatrixxGT depends on the drive as the one in the x box x is not a cheep park remember its a 4k drive. Was also part of the reason why the ps3 cost way more than the 360 due to the blueray drive. So its not as cheep as you think

Muzikguy2097d ago

@rain

Honestly I thought we reached that point already where people can shut up about it but it hasn’t happened. All the talk about digital and yet physical sales are still going strong. That should be enough but it’s not. People keep wanting to push that all digital is coming.

I don’t like that future at all. I don’t understand why many do. I don’t ever want to put trust in servers and internet or just someone else entirely over my stuff

mcstorm2097d ago

@Muzikguy bit of a personal question but how old are you? For me what I am seeing is a generation thing. For example my dad is in his 50s and still buys games, dvds and cds. My brother who is in his early 20s buys all digital for films, photos, music and games.

I see why people don't trust digital and for me I've gone all digital but I have a mix of things where some I own some I stream and I'm in my 30s.

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kevnb2098d ago (Edited 2098d ago )

when are people going to understand that a physical disk doesnt give you ownership of the game? I mean sure for now you can resell your disk, but they could easily attach a license to them. The consoles all incorporate strong drm measures. If you actually owned the game you could do what you want with it, make copies of it, sell it, port it to another system etc... Where does this false sense of ownership come from?

conanlifts2098d ago (Edited 2098d ago )

You own the physical item, not the license, yes that it is true. But you can loan it to friends and family members, resell it, put the box on display etc. With digital it is locked to your account. You can't do any of this.
Sure they could attach a license to it, but they won't any time soon. MS tried this when they announced Xbox One and it cost them a huge amount in terms of sales and reputation, forcing them to backpeddle.
Of course digital has some advantages. For example Xbox family sharing allows me to buy a game that can be played simultaneously by myself and my son. With play anywhere 3 people can play the same digital game at once using a PC and 2 Xbox consoles linked by family sharing.

THC CELL2097d ago

Your tied to the games even when they are long gone what happens when the servers are shut down and can't sell and trade. Ya left with nothing. Look at the price of some classic games today making 100s

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sammarshall1022099d ago

The day consoles are always-online is the day I stop buying new games

NotoriousWhiz2097d ago

Always online and digital only are 2 very different things.

sammarshall1022097d ago

True but I'd still have to download the games

lipton1012097d ago

Lol. The console manufacturers don’t care about you. Throw your little fit and miss out on great games.

sammarshall1022097d ago

They will care when they are getting stomped by their competitor who offers offline gaming

annoyedgamer2099d ago

Absolutely not. No physical media = no sale.

Smitty20202098d ago

You guys say that or think that but if it came too it you def would buy em

Segata2098d ago

Not as a collector. So no I would not.

rainslacker2098d ago

I might buy. But I'd wait for sales where they're $5-10. I'm patient enough that I don't need to buy my games day one. I'd go from spending 5-6 grand a year on games, to spending less than a few hundred.

DarXyde2098d ago

.... A very small part of me wants it to happen now so I can prove you wrong.

Muzikguy2097d ago

I wouldn’t

@rain

That’s an interesting point that I’m sure others feel the same way. If companies want to claim digital to be the future then if it’s like you say they’d be losing money. Why would they want that? I’m sure that they haven’t thought of this. Just that it’s easier for them distribution wise and cuts production costs

CaptainObvious8782097d ago

Nope, I'd be moving to PC gaming if that happened.

PC is still mainly digital, but it's not a closed market with pathetically high prices like consoles are.

sprinterboy2097d ago

Totally agree, 1 week sitting with the wife watching love island or geordie shore and you'd be straight out to the shop buying that discless playstation/xbox/NIN in a flash.

nucky642097d ago

i live a mile out of town and have a slow internet speed. it wouldn't be worth my time to try to download 50+ gig games. so, no. i'd quit gaming.

rainslacker2097d ago

@Captain

Even on PC, the game prices on day one, and a month or three in, are still about what you'd see at retail. it's after that first month that you can start to see game prices drop at retail. Steam can see some great sales after a year or more, sometimes decent ones before that.

I personally don't think enough gamers would hold off buying games early to make that much of a difference that publishers would miss out on revenue. They'd make more in the long run, because they'd pretty much do away with the resale market. This means more people may buy at higher prices where the publisher would see money, as opposed to losing a sale to the resale market where they see nothing.

lipton1012096d ago

Hell yeah they would. Enormous. I can't wait for the day of digital to come so I can come into this toxic ass website and LAUGH at all of the entitled butthurt neckbeards.

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FinalFantasyFanatic2098d ago (Edited 2098d ago )

The only time I don't buy physical is if it doesn't exist, or if in the rare case, the physical is so much more expensive than the digital.

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PS5 Pro specs leak video taken down by Sony

Sony is taking actions as video by Moore’s Law is Dead, has been issued with a copyright claim.

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andy853d ago

And people say it's all fake because Sony haven't said anything 😂 conveniently forget the PS4 Pro was only announced 2 months before release.

BeHunted3d ago

It's fake. There's no factual evidence other than his own made up specs.

Hereandthere3d ago

What were the specks Sony was afraid of showing?

Shikoku2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Digital foundry put a video out saying what he leaked was exactly what they also knew about the PS5 PRO. So no it's not just stuff he made up

Babadook72d ago (Edited 2d ago )

If it’s fake what copyright does MLID infringe upon?

😂

andy852d ago

Aye because they'd go to the effort of copyright claiming it if it didn't exist 🙃😂 you'd have to be a special kind to be thinking its not a thing by now

Cacabunga2d ago

They need to reveal it with uncharted killzone or a heavy hitter like this

Ironmike2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

U mean the specs that we'll established digital foundry which said these are the actual specs published a video on 2 weeks ago I mean they are only one of most trusted sites for tech information but they just made up a video for the sake of it

Christopher2d ago

I would love for it all to be fake, but lots of people are saying they've seen/heard the same thing. But, man, we 100% don't need mid-gen upgrades when we're failing hard to optimize current hardware.

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Seraphim2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

if I recall Sony lowered sales expectations for PS5 earlier this year. if that is the case we won't hear anything about a Pro until next year or shortly before/when it's dropping. After all, if the Pro was dropping this year/fiscal year they wouldn't have lowered expectations.

As for squashing rumors. Yeah, shit like this prevents potential buyers from adopting now, just like slim rumors in the past. It only makes sense to keep things under wraps from a business perspective. Despite living in a technological age of unfettered access to information we don't need to know whats going on behind closed doors be that at Sony, Nintendo, MS, or amongst any development studios. When the steak is done we shall feast.

JackBNimble2d ago

By the time games are actually made to take advantage of the pro spec's the ps6 will be released or close to it.

jznrpg2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Just announce it already! I want to preorder one asap. But in reality they don’t want to lessen PS5 sales until Pro is ready to launch so I understand the business part of it. September is probably when they announce it with an early November launch like the PS4 Pro

Ironmike2d ago

Pro won't lessen sales sames ps4 pro never and the ps4 pro was more relevant at the time cos move to 4k this not needed

RaidenBlack2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Yea, my brother got his PS4 (coz of a good deal) after the PS4 Pro's release.

darthv722d ago

^^same here. I got a base 4 for only $100 off a guy who bought the Pro. then a few months later I found a guy on craigslist selling a pro for $100 because it was left behind by his former roommate who moved out. That was the beginning of my obsession to buy up the different variants of the PS4 that were released.

As of now I am really only missing the 500m one and the gold slim but otherwise I have pretty much all the other retail ones. https://consolevariations.c...

crazyCoconuts2d ago

Anyone with 4K that appreciates 60fps is gonna disagree about it not being needed.
DLSS is a god send for Nvidia, and there's been nothing like it for AMD...yet ...

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DeadlyFire2d ago

They will announce it around E3 timeframe about May-June whenever they do a showcase for the year.

neutralgamer19922d ago

Just announce it this thing will sell well

Ironmike2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don't think it will pll still haven't seen the potential of ps5 yet

Cacabunga2d ago

agreed, but it might sell if they announce some 1st party games to lead the way. if people see the difference with the base version they can move on. for my sake I am still gaming mainly on PS4 (still not finished with RDR2 due to lack of gaming time). I have a huge backlog on PS5 I am hoping to get into.

mark3214uk2d ago

why? game makers havnt even come close to maxing out current spec yet, were getting al lthese new TFlops and game maker are making crappy remakes not worthy of the ps3

Minute Man 7212d ago

The guts of the 5 and X are 5 years old

fr0sty2d ago

People keep saying that, yet we still have games running at near HD resolutions, 30fps, and ray tracing features turned off.

PRIMORDUS2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would take that video and upload a torrent of it, fuck that copyright bullshit. If your going to do something that has a chance of being taken down, make a torrent first share it. Then Sony or any other company is helpless and you can laugh in their faces, taunting them to try to take it down 🤣

LoveSpuds2d ago

With kind of analysis and advice, you could be a lawyer for Trump!🤣

tronyx122d ago

As much as the PS4 Pro didn't represent a major % in the playerbase, announcing a 'better' model will hinder sales from the 'base' model. They are right, business-wise.

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XDefiant misses launch window, Ubi says a new release date will be announced after stress test

XDefiant was originally supposed to be out in summer 2023, but following a seemingly-successful beta test in April of that year, it was bumped to October 2023, and then delayed again to an unspecified future date. In its February 2024 financial report, Ubisoft slated XDefiant for launch in the fourth quarter of its 2023-24 fiscal year, which ended March 31.

A week before that date arrived, rumors surfaced that the game would be delayed yet again, and a few days later Ubisoft made it official.

"The game has always been community-first, with player feedback as a top priority," the development team said in the update. "While we hoped to go live by the end of March, there are still some improvements that we need to test before that."

Ubisoft said it's "finishing preparations" for a server stress test that will run for 12 hours on PC, PlayStation 5, and Xbox Series X|S. "After this short test, we expected to be able to lock a launch date and start sharing more about exciting content XDefiant has to offer in the future!"

just_looken17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

The previous news was from the team/rumors this is ubisoft themselves now saying the game is delayed again no new date set but they will have a stress test on a date that has not been set.

So the game is delayed to _____ TBD
Network stress test at ____ TBD

Ubisoft we make games whenever for whoever we just do not care

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X-2317d ago

I'm just going to be honest here and say what people seem to not want to, XDefiant success is going to be short-lived and it's because it's a game that's going to be under Ubisoft's umbrella. The development team can be absolute rockstars, but with Ubisoft steering the ship it's not going to go anywhere.

Profchaos17d ago

It could be a truely amazing game (it won't be) but with Ubisoft it will be monitized within a inch of its life.

smolinsk16d ago

The game is dead move on. It's the same with the Finals. These short period hype games doesn't last.

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New Xbox Devkit Certified In Korea, Could Be Next-Gen Console: Rumor

A new rumor suggests the next Xbox console is currently being tested by developers in South Korea.

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Obscure_Observer31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

If true, hopefully a fully fledged next gen console and not some unnecessary mid gen refresh system.

It could be that rumored Xbox portable, who knows

porkChop31d ago

Next gen would make sense. They said they'd talk about new hardware at the end of this year, and Xbox usually starts talking about next gen systems 2 years before they release. Late 2026 would make sense for next gen. Though it also seems a bit early for next gen dev kits to be going out.

Lightning7731d ago

Next gen wouldn't make any sense right now. They still have 1st party to release in the next few years. If they announce their next console at the end of the year that would do them harm more harm for their console. The console barely sells as is anyway. People would just wait off until the NEXT console. That's right, they'll have you playing the waiting game again.

fr0sty31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

If it does have anything to do with NextGen, Sony could have forced their hand by making the ps5 pro so powerful, with it said to be at over 33 teraflops and up to 4x the ray tracing performance, along with AI-powered upscaling that works on all games without patches required, according to Moore's Law is Dead, who is a very reliable source (and he also leaked photos of the internal documents confirming this).

What doesn't make sense is South Korea, why only there?

S2Killinit31d ago

MS is talking next gen because they already released 2 different SKUs, they cannot release a 3rd SKU because the cost of optimizing every game for 3 different consoles would be prohibitively high. MS essentially will abandon current gen xbox owners because otherwise they dont have any way to respond to PS5 PRO.

MS plans really backfired on them this gen.

StormSnooper31d ago

Next gen this early? People just bought their consoles. What about people with the current gen consoles? Will MS support the series S? Or just abandon them?

porkChop31d ago

@StormSnooper

What do you mean "this early"? They're just talking about the hardware at the end of the year, not releasing it. It wouldn't come out until holiday 2026. Personally I'd prefer waiting until holiday 2027 as we've barely had any games that really take advantage of the current consoles. But 6 years is pretty standard for a generation.

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Profchaos31d ago

That's the million dollar question Microsoft seem to indicate they want to start the next generation off early while PS is seemingly going for a refresh and next gen system in 2028.

However if they start the generation off say next year while only having the xsx on the market for 5 years consumers will start to question the lack of dedication to the systems.

A 5 year console cycle hasn't been relevant since the PS1 era and we've barely seen any convincing software that really shows the need for the current generation as is.

I feel like they need to wait until 2028 at least abs take PS on head on again

PassNextquestion2d ago

I believe the Wii U had 5 year life span till its successor arrive.

andy8531d ago

What would a fully fledged next gen console be though. The power creep is only high enough in 2024 to make a 'pro' type increase unless they make it super expensive. And given not as many are interested in the full powered Series X as it is. Who's buying it?

porkChop31d ago

It wouldn't be releasing in 2024. This is just a dev kit, they're always different from the final hardware.

andy8531d ago

Yeah but the thing would be being designed now is my point

porkChop31d ago

Designed now, yes, but the final hardware isn't available now. They'd have a general idea of what they're targeting but they'd still be working with AMD to build custom chips using upcoming architecture, not currently available chips. This is how every generation works.

S2Killinit31d ago

MS already abandoning the generation. That is how bad they are doing.

Obscure_Observer31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

"MS already abandoning the generation. That is how bad they are doing."

The only one "abandoning" the generation is Sony which barely scratched the surface with the PS5. So far there´s not a single first party game that pushed the hardware closer to its limits with true next gen games.

All its have to show from first party so far, is remakes, remasters, re-releases and cross-generation games.

The worst part of it all is that apparently, even the PS5 Pro will be released without a single first party game to show why that thing is needed in the first place.

That´s why I´m happy Xbox ditched the idea of another mid gen refresh Xbox, and will continue to focus on both SX and SS for the foreseeable future.

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Hah that is a hilarious response.

Look at MS leaving the generation halfway in the middle. At least in prior generations they would just give up, now they are abandoning their consumers too! like “sorry you bought what we sold you, but we gotta move on now, byyyeee”

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smashman9831d ago

While I can understand the annoyance with a mid gen refresh considering the severe lack of first party support on this console gen I'd argue it's very necessary considering most games still don't hit native 4k 60 on console.

Obscure_Observer31d ago

The PS5 Pro won´t achieve native 4k 60fps for most games either!

That´s why it´s pointless.

attilayavuzer31d ago

Same CPU in Pro, so the expectation is that it'll just be a res boost unfortunately.

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

According to Obscure, a mid-upgrade is “unnecessary” but a whole new generation is just dandy. My question is, why is that? I mean at least with a mid-gen upgrade gamers aren’t being left behind. If its too early for a mid-gen, then why is it not too early for a new gen? lol sorry I have to laugh.

Markusb3331d ago

another console for no one to buy, the series is tracking lower than the xbox one, buy your games and support them

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

@Obscure
Sooo a mid-gen upgrade is too early and “unnecessary”, but a whole new gen that leaves gamers behind is good?

porkChop31d ago

A mid gen console releasing this year using the same CPU, vs a next gen console with all new hardware launching more than two years from now. Mid gen is pointless because without a significant CPU upgrade games will still struggle with performance. A CPU overclock isn't remotely enough.

The biggest obstacle regarding performance this gen is the CPU, this is what causes so many games to have hitching, stuttering, sudden fps drops, 30fps, etc. A faster GPU cannot alleviate these issues, games won't just magically be 4K60fps with raytracing. That's not how it works.

Each frame has to be processed by the CPU before being handed off to the GPU. So a game can ultimately only perform as fast as the CPU can feed the GPU. This is why consoles focusing so heavily on GPU power is a problem, after the first couple years when you start really pushing the GPU the CPU becomes a bottleneck. We need more balanced consoles next gen.

FGHFGHFGH30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

@porkchop
fps, raytracing, etc is all gpu stuff. So when they do gpu tests, they use the exact system but use different gpus, the results are huge if you look at the top vs bottom. CPU will give you a higher ceiling but all graphics stuff is gpu work. FPS is gpu.(you plug gfx card into monitor)
"All games and cards are tested with the drivers listed above—no performance results were recycled between test systems. Only this exact system with exactly the same configuration is used for all results in this review."
Thats from rtx470 super ex review, rx5700xt does 44% compared to rtx470super ex 100% at 2560x1440 resolution. For games gpu is the best upgrade.
https://www.techpowerup.com...

Obscure_Observer30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

@S2Killinit

"Sooo a mid-gen upgrade is too early and “unnecessary”, but a whole new gen that leaves gamers behind is good?"

Have you paid attention to what I´d actually said?

I said that I rather MS to stick with the SX and SS for the foreseeable future!

And what you mean by "leaving gamers behind"?

It´s been 4 years and so far the PS5 don´t have a single true next gen first party game which pushes the console to its limits and, yet, Sony already have a pointless mid gen refresh console ready to launch which according to DF themselves it´s nothing but a disappointment as far CPU performance is concerned.

So why in the hell would I want MS to follow the same route?!

I rather have a full next gen Xbox console released by 2026-2027 rather than a worthless Xbox Series XX to be released this year.

StormSnooper31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

A new generation this early?? How is that a good thing??.. at least give us an upgrade. Some people barely bought their current gen consoles….

romulus2331d ago

Series x only came out 3 years and four months ago, talking about a "fully fledged next gen console" is just as unnecessary right now. Better hope not, an xbox portable would fail miserably.

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S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Yeah its wayyy too early for a next gen. People were even saying its too early for a mid-gen upgrade, let alone a new generation. And what happens to all the current xbox gamers? Leave them behind?

crazyCoconuts31d ago

And would they sell enough to justify the cost

Concertoine31d ago

At one time MS said that the one x/ps4 pro model would be the standard going forward. If theyre testing something new, its safe to say its a mid-gen upgrade. They’ll probably have another “Series-letter” name too. Callin it

Lightning7731d ago (Edited 31d ago )

Could be the refresh console perhaps? I doubt it'll be the new console. Might be the portable rumored device.

Regardless the fact we're talking about new hardware already is absolutely pathetic. Barely any current gen stuff out and the stuff that is out or coming is at 30 fps or doesn't, doesn't look current gen and what have you.

All we're doing is chasing power and not creating the games to harness said power.

Worse generation so far easily.

DarXyde31d ago

I have a hypothesis about the rush to move to next gen:

They want to really bake in AI integration in some way. How exactly? No idea, but perhaps new hardware would expedite a lot of development and reduce needed labour. Something they can't do with current hardware, perhaps.

I don't really know, but I reckon we'll get a good sense of it once we learn about the actual features of a new Xbox/Playstation.

blackblades31d ago

Above you said it makes no sense but these days a lot of things make no sense to some people. Ps portal, mid gen refresh doesnt make any sense either to some. Another thing is the switch came out earlier because the wiiu flopped. Sense xbox aint doing so well dont it make sense to start fresh on the next system and get the jump like the 360. Overall we don't know nothing.

DarXyde31d ago

The reason it would be unusual is because releasing in, say, the next two years would really restrict the technology it could implement. For example, they'd maybe get Zen 4 with FSR3 instead of waiting a bit. Moreover, if they intend to live up to the claims of it having the most significant leap, they can certainly do that, but the price is likely to be harder to stomach.

Frankly, I wouldn't recommend getting the jump on the competition too early. Xbox 360 was a phenomenal console in its early years, but it was also God awful because it was absolute garbage quality.

Releasing too early relative to competition is a dangerous bet, especially for a company like Microsoft given their history.

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

It WOULD help xbox’s image not to release next to PlayStation day and date. That way numbers can be played with. (i.e. “we are best selling console”)

S2Killinit31d ago (Edited 31d ago )

The only thing that makes me think this crazy news might be true is that MS already released two SKUs. If rumors are true that we will be getting a second SKU PlayStation (PS5PRO), then i dont think MS can release a third SKU as costs would be prohibitive for developing games for 3 separate SKUs that are so far apart in performance.

Solution: next gen xbox to leave some consoles out in those instances where developer can’t justify the cost.

This is bad news for xbox gamers indeed.

dumahim31d ago

"Could be the refresh console perhaps?"

The Series X one, yeah. That was my thought, but why would it need a dev kit? They're changing something. Maybe it's just some minor bump like the One S last gen.

niiopi31d ago

Lightning77 and Obscure_Observer are the same people LOL.

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Extermin8or3_31d ago

It was reliably leaked just a month ago that MS hadn't signed contracts for next gen till literally weeks ago- the same leakers that correctly leaked that hi fi rush and pentiment and sea of thieves were going to ps5. So this is very very very unlikely- if not impossible. Also it's way too early....

jwillj2k431d ago

Tell us oh great timeline masta… what speed should a shady trillion dollar company move at to compete with their “non rival” rival?

Hofstaderman31d ago

New wi-fi standard certification?

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