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Ready at Dawn CEO: The Order: 1886 Sales Have Been Steady; We'd Like to go Back to High-Budget Games

Ready at Dawn CEO Ru Weerasuriya commented on the steady The Order: 1886 sales and said the studio would like to make another triple-A game.

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codelyoko2067d ago

Criminally underrated game. I wish them the best.

Nitrowolf22067d ago

I really do hope Sony gives th m another go at The Order sequel. Despite its flaws the game has some major potential.

PhantomS422067d ago

It really does and while many flaws were valid most of the hate came from it being a shorter story focused game for $60. It probably would have been received a lot better for $40 at launch. I think a sequel would really give the devs a chance to let that potential out and really deliver the experience they wanted to.

GTgamer2067d ago

Sony will definitely give them another shot but will the gamers me personally yes but it better be longer

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Grown Folks Talk2067d ago

My biggest issue was the fact you could legit beat it in one sitting in a few hours, & the werewolves, which were supposed to be the biggest deal, were the easiest enemies to beat.

Muzikguy2067d ago

@Skull

You come across as one of the most clueless people on this site. Give your hatred a rest dude. Not a single person acts as if the game is the second coming of Christ. It’s definitelu not a polished turd. Must be hard to recognize things though when you live in such a tiny box. Maybe MS offers better games for you, then stick to all your fun games and quit being ignorant

3-4-52067d ago

The thing is....the story in this game is only like 3 hours shorter than an Uncharted game, and nobody complains about that.

jimbost792067d ago (Edited 2067d ago )

@Muzikguy you're right. This skull guy is toxic.

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DaGR8JIBRALTAR2067d ago

Agreed...Sony should give them another chance. I personally loved the game.

playnice2067d ago

Another chance at a AAA whether it's a sequel or a new IP either way I'd be happy :)

Shiken2067d ago

Same here, so much untapped potential. It was a bit on the short side sure, but the gunplay was top notch.

derek2067d ago

Not without new management and oversight.

Jinger2067d ago

I don't think it's criminally underrated. Nor underrated in the slightest. The game has a lot of fundamental gaming and story telling problems.

I absolutely love the setting and premise though and really hope they get to make a sequel to flesh it out and improve on everything.

ziggurcat2067d ago

"The game has a lot of fundamental gaming and story telling problems..."

such as... ?

jc122067d ago (Edited 2067d ago )

@Ziggurcat: Really? Just click on metacritic. You'll have your answer in 5 seconds.

Jinger2067d ago

@ziggurcat

Did you play the game? If you had then you'd have experienced the mediocre cover shooting, the badly implemented boss sections that were just repeated multiple times. Then the story was rushed and glossed over a lot with a lot of anticlimactic sections like the vampires in the warehouse.

It's fine if you liked the game, I still did enjoy it for what it was. That's why i hope it gets a sequel to flesh out and improve.

ziggurcat2067d ago

"Did you play the game?"

Yes. I have the platinum, in fact.

What about the cover shooting made it "mediocre"? It felt like normal cover shooting like you would find in Gears or Uncharted to me. The story complaints aren't entirely valid as it was planned to be a trilogy - you don't go into the first episode of a series expecting everything to be explained or tied up in a nice little bow for you at the end of the first episode. That would defeat the whole purpose of having a series.

The game was fine, and a lot better than everyone was making it out to be. The only real valid criticisms were perhaps the length (which wasn't an issue for me, really), and the boss variety.

OB1Biker2067d ago (Edited 2067d ago )

Game has flaws. Like many games have flaws. How much you enjoyed a game is personal point of view though. People keep saying reviews are just an opinion. Go all the way in that logic and allow people to say a game is underrated. There's no telling this or that are facts anyway

TekoIie2067d ago

@Ziggurcat

No it's cover system is not as good as Gears. Sorry but Gears cover system has some unique mechanics that were kinda accidental (in the way wave dashing is in Smash Bros Melee).

To give an example here is what it looks like if you try wallbouncing in The Order: https://youtu.be/s9DuxpyVzj...

"The story complaints aren't entirely valid as it was planned to be a trilogy"

Load of crap. If your opening games story is lackluster then why should I care about your sequel? Oh my bad guys I'd rate the game badly but it's the first in a trilogy so my opinion is wrong because of 2 more games that currently don't exist.... /s

It uses some very interesting ideas for it Lore but most of it is only skin deep. But it's dressed up well with good acting, a well written script, solid animation and good graphics which gives the illusion of having a good narrative. As I've said though these are only skin deep and the things that truly make the game like the level design, enemy variety, ai and general lack of content is where it completely fails

A sequel isn't what's needed but a reboot that intertwines itself with the Orders origin with Arthur Pendragon and also in the setting of 1886. Don't just insist on name dropping historical figures in such a shallow way. Make them the core of the world and not just filler.

rainslacker2067d ago

I felt the gun play was the best part of the game play to be honest. The game mechanics did have their flaws elsewhere, and I can point them out better than most who seem to just hate on the game, and will easily agree about the boss fights, but even that highlights the game was unfinished and rushed out the door.

That being said, the story elements weren't really a problem. Or at least, I felt that the game was unfinished, which left parts of the story unfinished. But what was there was good enough. I've seen much weaker stories in the first entry to a new IP which were no where close to as good as The Order. Things like Gears of War which pretty bare bones and really just a set up for the next gun sections. UC1(which had a cursory story in the first game, although likable characters). The tomb raider reboot, which didn't improve with the 2nd game. List could go on, but I don't really want to start a flame war by citing different games.

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-Foxtrot2067d ago

Underrated but it had its faults

If they marketed the game with how it was then I don’t think as many people would have as felt let down

rainslacker2067d ago

I don't know if it was under rated. It did have some flaws and was released unfinished. But I felt that the hate it got was unjustified, and many people made it out to be much worse than it really was while usually disregarding the actual good things it did.

I still kind of know who hasn't played it when they say the actual game play was bad, because the game play itself was pretty damn solid.

Otherwise, I wish them the best too. I would like to see them get a shot at making a sequel. I'd imagine if they don't have to worry about making the engine with a 2nd game, maybe they can focus on the game.

medman2067d ago (Edited 2067d ago )

Not that anybody gives a crap, but here were some of my thoughts on The Order:1886 after playing it when it came out.... (Spoilers for those who still haven't played???)

I definitely think Ready at Dawn missed an opportunity to dive deep into the lore and give us much more of the backstory of all the Knights, and their histories. When you consider all their eyes must have seen in the hundreds of years they've been alive, I was disappointed we didn't get to learn much more about them, particularly Igraine. I liked the game overall though, just needed a few things to make it great, like a deeper look into the characters, more collectibles, and less handholding/on rails gameplay.

I was not happy with Galahad when he decided not to take Igraine and Lafayette (now Percival) to the East India Company, but instead took the Knight commander. And after discovering the shipping containers full of lycans, how could he not tell the knights, particularly Igraine, who he's presumably been fighting alongside for centuries, what was going on?? Igraine deserved to know. So now Grayson (Galahad no more) becomes one of the rebels? Loved no more, now hated by Igraine? Still respected and given the benefit of the doubt by Lafayette (Percival)? I too, look forward to a sequel, perhaps dlc??? (DLC never came, sequel is doubtful, so I am not thrilled, but damn if the story told didn't make me give a damn about some of these characters)

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italiangamer2067d ago

Come on Sony, give them a second chance. Hopefully they let them make a sequel on PS5.

LavaLampGoo2067d ago

I thinking 1886 came out now it would have a different, more positive response. The ending was still pants though

Rimeskeem2067d ago

I personally liked the ending. Made me want a sequel.

ccgr2067d ago

Haven't played that one yet

MrVux0002067d ago

C'mon give us a redeemable sequel...my only wish is that they give us a new setting aswell, preferably in India...

rainslacker2067d ago

Going by the ending, it would probably be in the US.

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Final Fantasy 7 Remake Part 3 Expected to Release Around 2027, Says Square Enix

It's fairly common knowledge that Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth enjoyed a relatively smooth development cycle, owing to the fact that Final Fantasy 7 Remake's team was largely kept intact, and the first game had obviously laid the foundations in terms of visuals and gameplay systems. It took Square Enix around three years to craft Rebirth, and it expects the same kind of timeline when it comes to the third (and final) title in the trilogy.

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lucian2293d ago

Soooo long. Sigh lmao gonna be a long long wait.

Cacabunga2d ago

Yes but better they take their time with such game. A good argument to get PS5 Pro

Sonic18812d ago

The PS6 might be out by then

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

In 2,5 years? No way .. Pro will be around for at least 2 years..

RaidenBlack2d ago

Might be an unpopular opinion here, but I wish the remake was a 2-parter not a 3-parter.
Die-hard fans will disagree and I get it but ... I think they're stretching the project abit too much imho.

lucian2292d ago

considering how much story is in the original, i think it's fine. Everything is very well elaborated and the connection to those characters are much greater thanks to it. Like, i like seeing tifa and aerith as best friends for example. the fact the first 2 games in this trilogy basically only covered the first disc of the original is kinda crazy tho lol

Becuzisaid2d ago

@lucian That first disc was a whopper though. I don't remember the second being as long, and the third is basically just the final dungeon.

I'm glad they did 3 games. The first 2 have been absolutely phenomenal. Looking forward to the Weapons (the real ones) waking up and attacking, the underwater exploration (they set that up pretty good with the lore of Under Junon), and finally Cloud's big reveal. It'll be real interesting to see how they handle the repercussions of Cloud's behavior from Rebirth and what he's going to do in Part 3. Like the party should realistically just abandon him for being such an a-hole, and after what he did to a Tifa. They really played up the whole Sephiroth mind control thing in Rebirth. They really need to nail the emotional payoff to that. Hope it's not just swept under the rug by the party and just move on post Lifestream.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Also 3 games and then a Crisis core remaster

Then god knows what else

It’s overkill

I’d under the trilogy if they lived up to their excuse about it being about expanding the lore. Like they said the first game would heavily expand the lore of Midgar through side missions but the side missions didn’t do that at all, they were all pretty generic. Felt like a bad excuse to justify 3 games.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Least we have a potential date

Although now I’m just thinking

“Damn 3-4 years to see if we’ll ever get a FFVIII remake next”

VersusDMC2d ago

Apparently there is a IX remake getting made. You need that to come out and be successful before a VIII remake is even possibly green lit.

But if you're thinking the FF7REMAKE team is making a FFVIII remake after part 3...that is not happening. They are definitely making a new FF after.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Well apparently IX is coming first because the VIII team are working on the VII remakes

So if they get finished then hopefully they will work on VIII next

You say it won’t but I’m hoping they will…just something less ambitious

TheEroica2d ago

Yikes.... Sales are already lower than expected for the sequel. Third game is gonna be lower....

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GoodGuy092d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I really think it should've been just one game or two at most, kept to the simple turn based combat, and no crazy changes to the story. But it's whatever. I liked rebirth but man was it bloated with so much unnecessary and repetitive stuff. Square is really betting their money on the remakes. I do admit the remakes have been the only mainline ff games Ive actually quite liked since probably 10 lol.

Lexreborn22d ago

I don’t feel like it’s bloated, it’s more or less all the same content that was in the original for mini games but they expanded everyone’s narrative better.

I am glad they expanded even on the characters that came in later games that wasn’t in the original. It’s a weird position we keep putting devs in when one moment we say give us a complete game with tons of content. They deliver said content and then we treat it like it’s overwhelming or to much.

Crazy part is you could just focus on the story and do none of the “bloat”. Gamers really seem to never be happy when you look online forums

rambot892d ago

Wouldn’t make sense financially. 1 game would involve a mammoth amount of development time and a gamble to say the least. Making one part of the game and seeing if it makes $$$ gives reason to justify making a part 2 and 3 and make more money too.

OtterX2d ago

That's pretty crazy if you think about the 2005 PS3 tech demo that started this all! I'm not sure if they ever intended to remake the game at that time, but the fan outcry for it was so incredible that it eventually became a reality! Now imagine all of the fans who have died waiting for this. :\

GamerRN2d ago

That's how you turn an 80$ game into a $240 game

jambola2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Which game is 240?
You must've bought from a bad scalper because I got both games for normal price each

GamerRN2d ago

How much did each part cost?

Lionsguard2d ago

I mean not too surprised, they already have most of all the assets already made. I just hope it's UE5 and they crank it to 11 and finish strong. I also hope they go back and upgrade Remake and Rebirth to UE5 too. BUY THE DAMN GAME PEOPLE!!

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

For all the complaints about GAAS and same thing getting released every year. It’s almost dumb that gamers here don’t support a game like Rebirth.

MrNinosan2d ago

Rebirth is selling great and is supported. Don't worry.

MrNinosan2d ago

It won't be UE5.
If that wad the case, we wouldn't play it in 3 years.

Becuzisaid2d ago

And it would likely play like trash compared to the first 2, at least on PS5.

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Josh Sawyer, Pentiment Director, Comments on Industry Burnout Issues

Josh Sawyer tweets: "I believe burnout has already replaced crunch as the primary hazard of the game industry. Managers are setting teams up to fail and devs are getting ground up as collateral damage. I have suffered from burnout myself. It's no joke. Thanks to @thewritegame and @Eeoor for the talk.

As with crunch, it's likely that managers may acknowledge creating the circumstances leading to burnout but will not take the necessary steps to change them. It's important that devs continue to talk to and support each other and to apply pressure until change is effected."

anast3d ago

Typically burnout comes from abusive management.

N3mzor3d ago

"Flood has replaced the faulty dam as the primary hazard of the valley"

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Rise Of The Rōnin Creators Talk Popular Samurai Media Like Shogun, Coincidental Timing, And Cats

Rise of the Rōnin producer Yosuke Hayashi and director Fumihiko Yasuda are watching Shogun and recommend you watch Yojimbo.

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