Sony has had huge success selling their games at retail with record breaking numbers. They don't need to put them on a subscription service from day one.

no thank you. Sony, please please please just keep doing what you're doing.
Following MS is like following a car off of a cliff.

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This gen, it's almost felt like if your game doesn't sell well on PS4, you did something wrong as a studio. With millions of copies sold per title, exclusive or not, I'm sure some people wouldn't think twice about paying for a subscription, just to be able to have access to that great catalog.

Sure, I'd definitely sub to it and try out games I normally wouldn't ever buy. Sony would make more money from ME that way. This year I haven't bought a single Sony game, but for $15 I would at least try a handful of them.

Possibly, but I think Sony should keep doing what they're doing and not just follow something a competitor (who by the way is slated for a distant third in the console war) is doing. MS has done things that have worked for them and this is one of them, but Sony has done things that have worked even better for them. If they see the value in doing something similar they might try their hand at it, but if they don't, life goes on and millions more PlayStations get sold.

It's called PlayStation now and has been running since last gen

Would most of the exclusives Sony have and will have turn to AA games? Would Sony stop reporting on sales numbers and say they're not important anymore, but turn around and talk about high monthly engagement?

Will they sacrifice the quality of their games so that their devs can output smaller cookie cutter games every three months to stay competitive?

Will they they create a PS Pluspass Ultimate and put their MP based games on it to try an reach a broader audience with the PC crowd?

I'm sure there a many that would buy into a program like that, same as XBox, but what type of games would we get? Mostly third party games and indies with the occasional AAA at the beginning, middle, and end of the generation?

If more than one would be the case, I say no thank you Sony.

Playstation gamer mostly here(exclusives), i have a gaming pc and an xbox also, theres nothing as good as gamepass. sony just cant compete right here.

They don't need it. They are dominating.

No! First, Sony copies MS with paid online. They don't need to keep copying them.

I don't know why Sony would want to. Their exclusive games are actually good and actually sell. They don't need to bleed from a $1/m subscription service in order to give the unfortunate people who bought XBoners a reason to dust off their VCRs.

Microsoft has other streams of revenue like Office 365 subscriptions,etc. Playstation is pretty much the only thing keeping Sony's lights on, so they can't really afford to do it.

Sony don't need to have a Sony game pass

Please don't. These services are nothing but a gateway to microtransactions and loot boxes.

The true question:
Is game pass on xbox viable? It's all good when you see 3M players on first weekend, but it's still too soon to say this model is sustainable. Let's wait and see if the "1$ subscribers" are going to stay...

i have no interest in paying any kind of subcription fee. i'll buy the games i want.

Totally not because is not needed. Playstation software sales are very healthy and exclusives games sell even better than games that are multiplatform.

Gamepass is a business model made for Xbox due to their fragile position and average software sales. Playstation is king in the market. That kind of business model is not needed.

I think greatest hits are just fine.

I think so, although if truth be told I'd be happy with just a Playstation exclusives pass like service.

Every PS4 Sony published game, and new games day one. Imagine Death Stranding, TLOU 2, Medievil, ect day one, I'd sub to that!

Same with PS5, all exclusives launch on PlayStation Pass.

They do that and even at £9.99 a month, if just 5% of PS4 owners sub that's £49,950,000 a month or 599m a year.

That's with just 5% of PS4 owners.

Bump that up to 15%? £149m a month, £1.7b a year.

And like I said keep it Sony only games and all that money goes back into Sony.

They sold over 100 mill consoles and over 1 billion games this gen i think thats your answer. Microsoft was forced to do something drastic because of terrible sales. If Sony's huge success this gen was Microsoft's instead u would of never seen a gamepass.

Sony’s exclusives are doing well. They don’t need a gimmicky service to entice gamers.

Sony exclusives are selling quite well. I don't believe they are interested in a gamepass like service for them.

Game Pass is sega channel reincarnated, great value with some nice hidden gems.

I would love Sony to make all PSNow games downloadable and put first party exclusives on PSNow day one. Make my subscription even more worth it!

No. Largely because Sony makes games that sell.

Sure but it will harm them in the long run just stick to PSNow

tbh i don't know how a service like gamepass is sustainable if you want to keep quality games, it would be more in sony's favor to make blockbuster games at a premium price imo

I think were asking the wrong question here. Its not can Sony do a Game Pass like service? Of course Sony can but the question is why would they want to? Sony puts out fantastic first party games and they seem to have no problem selling these titles. Also most gamers still want to own their games and not rent them. That's not to say Xbox Game Pass is not a great service but let's be honest here Microsoft has to think outside the box and Sony or Nintendo for that matter does not. Both Sony and Nintendo think and sell to a global market while Microsoft thinks and sells to local market. I just don't see Sony putting their 1st party titles on a service on day one release. Sony wants to make and sell a PlayStation console while this is no longer important to Microsoft according to Phil Spencer.

If Microsoft can then surely Sony can too. Especially with its large user base. And seeing a relative “small” install base buying their exclusives it could mean that percentage could really become much much higher.

We dont even know if its viable for MS in the long run!
Both Sony and Nintendo are in a healthy place right now economicly. I doubt any of them are willing to chance it to maybe get a pay off 5-6 years later.

I don't want a gamepass on Playstation. I don't want Sony to take a hit, I would rather them invest most of their money in MORE big AAA games.. Tv and Movies are different to games. Netflix for games is stupid and will never be successful in the way they are hoping. 50 Hour games etc. GamePass will ultimately fail.

Think about it. You can play Gears 5 for 1 Dollar, and MS announced they had only 3 million or so players. In the UK, Gears 5 is the worst EVER selling Gears game in the franchises history. Now people are on to Borderlands 3. GamePass will ultimately fail.

It already does. Its called PS Now. All the PS4 games are downloadable on the PS4. They just need to drop the price and bundle it together with ps+ like MS have done with the ultimate pass.

Yes. I thought that was one of the reasons they partnered with MS and are going to use Azure. They can absolutely do it if they want to.

Sony has so many good games, that it will make sense to have game pass + "plus" for 120 USD per year and I would subscribe. Because If I sum up all expenses for first and second party exclusives, that are worth it, its way more.

I doubt they could to be honest Microsoft is funding gamepass with Microsoft money not Xbox money so I feel like it would be like epic vs steam Microsoft could just use money power to get all the good games and undermine Sony’s effort don’t get me wrong Sony would have a hell of a first party line up but I don’t think that would be enough to compete due to Sony putting a game out once every 2-3 months vs gamepass adding like 3-6 games a month and having a pc library where as Sony seem to want to stay away from pc.

Maybe if they went the route of a playstation pass that just had all the new 1st party games then that would be sweet but the price is a hard sell when compared to gamepass in the uk Sony just put up the price of ps+ to £8 I doubt they want to only make an extra £3 a month for all the amazing games they are putting out this gen.

Game pass ultimate has gold(£7), gamepass (£8) and gamepass pc (£4) for £11, Sony has no pc presence so that would hurt the value of a Sony gamepass if it were to compete with Microsoft’s price not to mention that as I said above Xbox has Microsoft money so they could take the hit of lowering the price and undercutting Sony just to make them look bad.

The PS4 is absolutely killing it this gen it saved Sony from bankruptcy... that’s insane gaming saved a huge company from collapse after their electronics division fucked their finances they have money but they don’t have $717 billion if Sony want to compete with gamepass I feel they would have to start smaller and focus on their 1st party games rather than outside help in the form of indies and 3rd party games because nothing Microsoft could do can take away Sony’s incredible games this gen.

I think Sony is perfectly happy selling their games at £50 a pop and having them actually sell so if we do see Sony’s game pass it will be when they are hurting lest we forget gamepass was a desperation move for Microsoft I highly highly doubt they prefer paying all this money out vs making £50 a pop and having an extra 40 million sales of hardware...

Its going to be interesting next gen especially with the tariffs thats coming which will affect the game industry. Xbox Gamepass will look even better next gen if the prices of new AAA ips will start costing 70.00 or 80.00 at retail and if online digital prices do not change for the better. Those tariffs will make gaming even more expensive next gen so Sony will have no choice but to change their business model to grab the casual market. Although Sonys ps5 exclusives will be worth 70-80 dollars I doubt most people will spend that type of cash for their hobby.

Microsoft might be onto something with Game Pass. It could end up becoming the Netflix of gaming. There may come a time when people are no longer interested in paying 60 bucks for games and would rather just subscribe to a subscription service, in the same way that people are no longer interested in paying 20 to 30 dollars for DVDs/Blu-Rays.

Not to the same degree because all of Microsoft's exclusives are geared toward the multiplayer experience. I am still playing Halo 5 on a regular a basis 5 years later. Look at the multiplayer package that Gears 5 offers. Sony sells the grand single player experience only. They would loose money because their games lack replay value because they don't offer multiplayer. I can pay for one month of PS Game Pass and beat God of War, Days Gone, Last of Us, and Death Stranding and be done. While Sony makes great games they have not made multiplayer a focus like Microsoft has.Multiplayer is what is going to keep you coming back and buying stuff. I think the Halo 5's multiplayer and the amount of money they made off of microtransactions opened the door for game pass. But having said that you have to deliver the goods. While we all play games, I never felt that the core Xbox gamer and the core Playstation gamer are the same type of gamer. Quantum Break and Sunset Overdrive would probably have sold great on the Playstation. Having said that I wonder how well God Of War would have sold on the Xbox with no multiplayer. Again I just think that the core audiences for each is different.

Don't care either way.

PS Now is already a 900+ games better.

I still dont think Microsoft are making any money off of gamepass. Gears 5 lost out on a lot of day one sales and i doubt the amount of gamepass subsriptions shot up to cover this.

Yeah, I don't see that happening. Sony still charges $15 for old PSTwo Classics!

Xbox Game Pass Ultimate is a game changer! I'm getting to play $60 games 6 months to a year before they go bargain bin. Which is when I would usually buy them.

I would play AAA game for a dollar, everybody would, but you are loosing 60 times... the detail, per copy. It's good that Microsoft gets their money from enterprises, and not from consumers.

I hope not. I blame Game Pass partly for MS's terrible game output this gen. They see people get so excited for the very occasional Game Pass AAA title and use that to justify not making more quality games. Because they already have your money and know to do just the minimum to keep you subscribed.

Gamepass was a desperation move by Microsoft to get anyone to play their games by giving them away essentially. Works out good for the end user though.

Gamepad you are never buying any of the games just like renting it if you stop subbing you can't play. I'd rather have my own games collection tbh