I disagree completely with this, some games I feel are worth 60, but a lot I don't think are worth that and that makes me happy for Game Pass, so I can try those games.

A game like Red Dead Redemption would never work on Game Pass, because of the amount of time and money that goes into making it.

If Game Pass becomes the way of the future for games only a few things will come out of it, like games that take less time to finish and ones that don't push the consoles to the max.

I think you can have both the 60 dollar blockbuster games and the Game Pass games that are more experimental and aren't graphic powerhouses.

For a good game I'll gladly pay 60 and support the developer, while also building a collection.

I wonder who paid Polygon for this article.

No, many developers need to sell their games at 60$ to recoup development costs. It will not work for all games.

If you want to get less game, and poor quality in the future with a crap load of MT's, more power to you.

"Spending $60 on a video game doesn’t make sense anymore" You're right, I just wait a year and let the price drop down so I can buy it on sale.

I haven't seen a $60 new game since PS3 XB1 days in Canada brand new games are $83 dollars after taxes and can even go higher depending on the provincial tax.

hahahahahaha!! Sony is showing The Last Of Us 2 on the 24th. you wouldn't have these games without a full purchase model. 3 million players at $1 subscription and many of them just subbing to play the story and nothing else means MS must be losing a tone of money on this game.

people just aren't thinking this through.
even a drug dealer knows how to hook people.
this is no different.

Says the site who can't play Doom 2016 for shit. Yeah, no, get lost. Scum site.

Spending $60 on a video game (produced by Microsoft) doesn't make sense any more

It does if you want quality and like owning your games or at least having indefinite access to them with or without internet connectivity.

Meh, I am fine with Gamefly..

Oh look its Polygon, the same company that has been paid by Microsoft and the same company who hired a person who never played video games to preview Doom

...nah. I enjoy playing what I want, when I want into perpetuity. Shoot, it took a lot for me to transition from physical to 100% digital "ownership" so you can understand why it would be a bit much for me to cede the only power I have left. Allowing an entity to curate my entire experience is unpalatable in every aspect. As a supplementary option, sure. There is tremendous value in these subscription services but I lament their inevitable ubiquity. Streaming, subscription services for all...not for me.

From a different perspective- Modern AAA games aren't worth getting on Day 1 these days. Lack of new things,, pandering to SJWs and idiots, anti-consumer practices, stale mechanics everything make modern AAA games not worth it.

I seem to remember another user on here who got banned who used to warn that as soon as people got used to subscriptions they would start to question full priced games. Now here we are.

Gamepass is going to destroy the ease at which other especially smaller game developers had in getting their games to market and selling them.

All Microsoft had to do was not put games on gamepass day one but promise to put all their games on there and this situation would have been avoided. But of course as usual Microsoft didn't care about the industry they only cared about Microsoft.

Microsoft doesn't care about whats best for gaming they just want to be able to control it.

I agree. Wait a week and the price drops.

Its not because of subscriptions. It Just doesnt make sense to pay full price when you know that in a couple months you can buy it 30 or 40 percent cheaper and get a fully patched version. Or hell, wait a year and Bang, goty version with all dlc 50% cheaper.

I'm all for the Netflix model. What people don't understand is companies like Microsoft/Netflix have a huge budget on how much they'll pay to get certain games/movies on their service. High Quality AAA devs are gonna get paid more than Indie devs, it's the same way with Netflix. And they might even have it worked out where a dev gets a certain percentage based on download numbers. Devs might actually stand to make more money, esp. on games people are hesitant to shell out 50-60 bucks for.

FK this brainwashing, physical or go home, lost money, i like to own things and do what i want with what i paid for, the rest is pure bullshit.

The Netflix model will be adopted by the masses, hardcore nerds will call those people casuals and plebs, and everyone will continue to move on with their lives, playing games they enjoy.

Oh Polygon...

I'm sure we would all rather have "free 2 play, games as a service" bullshit business models instead....btw God Of War, Forza, Uncharted, RE2, Re7, DMC 5, Horizon Zero Dawn, Bloodbourne and Spiderman called...they'd like to have a word.

Except for Nintendo, I agree that few games deserve full retail price anymore. Many recent "AAA" releases use the "free"-to-play mobile business model with the addition of full price. I won't buy those, at any price.

Not all games are 60$ or worth 60$ but there are plenty that are and I just buy the games I want day 1 full price because I want the game day1 and want to support the companies that make the games I enjoy . I want quality games and I’m willing to pay more for them.

It makes sense when a first party AAA game is filled with MT and cutting on content. I rather spend 60$ on a full game like god of war than spend a 1$ on a gears game filled with microtransactions and bullshit progression system. No thanks. We don't need first party AAA games supporting this bullshit. I swear to god you would have a heart attack if you entered gears 5 in game store. Couple of costumes and one banner cost 60$ worth of in game currency

DRM failed.
This is their 2nd plan and y’all falling for it.
I like my hard copies, thanks.

I don't have $60 to give to every developer at launch. It's also not very economical. By the time I have enough time to complete the game I'm currently playing, a ton go on sale, and the ones I was interested in before those are now deeply discounted. Game pass makes a ton of since for me as a working Dad. I can't commit to buying everybody's game a $60 a launch, but I can still support the Developer (who gets paid upfront) long after the demand curve falls off.

I have no problem spending 60 for quality and supporting a good developer.

This article is made up just to make an excuse for game pass. Xbox excuses this generation have gone beyond pathetic:

Hardware sales doesn't matter.
Software sales doesn't matter.
Exclusives doesn't matter.
Single player games doesn't matter.
Reporting monthly active users doesn't matter.
Spending 60 on a game doesn't matter.

I say: Xbox YOU don't matter.

Metro overrated. DMCV is ok., Tomb raider just isn't the game it once was sadly.

Best game on that list is Forza Horizon 4.

i don't like subscription services. if i'm really looking forward to a game (LoU2, dying light 2, GoT) i'll buy it day1 and not regret it at all.

If you think a developer is willing to spend 8 years creating their vision and release a title 8 years in the making on gamepass you're dreaming rdr2 quality games will never launch on gamepass.

Microsoft has to release their games on gamepass at launch for the simple fact that it's their service

It stopped making sense when digital sales became the norm.

I hope not. Subscriptions won’t be enough, if that’s the case mt’s are going to get 100x worse. I’d rather pay $80 for a game then all future games being loaded with micro transactions. It’s funny how $20 games at most have in game economies of 1000’s of dollers. If I can’t own the complete game for a set amount I won’t touch it .
P.s. polygon is sjw trash

lemme guess the author is an xbox fan and will follow anything they say. hes referring to gamepass which is great but theres no ownership of any game

It doesn’t. They should be able to charge a higher retail price for more ambitious projects if they wish.

It’s not worth it! Such an overpriced product!

I mean there are plenty of games that don't cost just $60 anymore. If you factor in season passes and DLC you can easily drop well over $100 on a game easy.

Are we forgetting that the games on gamepass can still be bought as standalone games? It's both. No one is, yet at least, forcing a subscription model.

You don't even have to pay full price for all games these days. Unless you have no life an play all day then you can easily wait a few week to a month and a game is usually $20 off. Wait a little long and it may be half price.

I definitely can't keep up so I don't buy all games day 1. Hell I picked up both Ghost Recon and Nioh when the were $20. Did I want those games a launch? Yes, but my backlog is already massive and I don't have the time. But this is just me...y'all do you... Happy Gaming.

NO
I wanna spend $200 on a genre defining masterpiece like Bloodborne and Witcher and Devil May Cry.
And I would not play some trash ubisoft-ea lyyve seervuce for FREE.

While I agree I rarely ever pay $60 for a game any more. In fact I’ve probably only paid that 3X at the most in the last 9 years for a game. I always wait for a sale.

As for the Netflix model, sure it’s a nice addition of a way to play and I even have game pass for the moment but it will never ever be the main way I play video games

If you think that model is the future you are a idiot. You think their is going to only be one or a few of them try dozens. If you think the price is going to stay at $10 a month for long, you are a even bigger fool. If that model ever took off get ready for prices to start soaring way past $10 a month real fast.

But wait you said there will be dozens of ones to sub too so we will have competition...LOL. Like the competition with all the Pc launchers we have now they won’t compete by giving you better deals. No they will compete by getting exclusive games and twist your arm into using their service.

It would be a massive shit show I will skip out on. You will finally be giving 100% control to the people you don’t want too.

Polygon....................... .......nuff said.

$60 is a better deal than ever with inflation.

The only reason it doesn't make sense that I can see is the fact that they cut the price in half very soon after release. After 3-6months it's almost guaranteed...

Yep gamepass is great

$80.00 if you're in Canada. Games are way too expensive these days. If you purchase an 'ultimate edition' or a season's pass, games can go from $100.00 - $170.00 which is crazy. How many games do they think people will buy per year at these prices?

A lot of games aren't worth 60 usd, but some are. It makes sense to buy a game that's worth 60 usd and not have to worry about always being online.

Your right "spending $60 on games don't make sense anymore". Because we should be paying $70 to $80 for these games. And with that cost increase they should stop putting in any micro transactions. Let us know when Game Pass gets multiplats like Red Dead Redemption, Call of Duty, GTA 6 and other great games like these on day 1 and with Microsoft still offering the $1 entry fee with the $10 to $15 monthly cost after the first month then we can talk about how great Game Pass is. Till then Game Pass is a Hard Pass. Sorry Microsoft IMO Game Pass is just not worth my time.

F*** digital.

I much prefer physical where i own a copy for life

I don’t see this being the future for games for years yet.

yeah and downloading it for free and then spending 99.99 on useless skins makes sense???

If the game is worth it, ill pay that price with a smile

It never did for me, Triple A games are worth 30$ max, indies 5-10$ other than that it'll have to wait for sale.

Why does the gaming industry fools keep lying about the business model not working ????

games are making more money than ever so what is this games can't be $60 nonsense ???

most games are cheaper (no disc all digital) to produce, most games are making a killing off loot boxes, cosmetics, microtransactions, dlc, etc.

this is GREED !!!! … we need more than the billions we're making now, we need $$$ every month

look they charge for multiplayer, they charge for the console, they charge for the game, … if they decide all (majority) of games need a sub then I'm done with them. I'm sure plenty of fools will jump on the bandwagon and they'll make money,

Not MINE !!!

You want to know why subscription models are coming.... There is a court case going on in the uk area... Allowing people to sell there digital games legally. KABOOM

French high court rules that Steam can’t ban users from reselling digital games

Why not? To invest in what you want to play, what you want to own and whom you want to give your money? Hmmmm...believe in a platform and developer? hmmm To own a great game?

A lot of people pretend that they spend $60 on games. There is always this fake facade they put that when they say we should support developers.
Games like Control from this year is proof that they don't put money where their mouths are. They only spend money on select games and leave games like Control until it's on sale.
Keeping up with every AAA release this year is quite expensive and the whole; let's support the developer is an excuse.

"Owning what you buy doesn't make sense anymore"

Clown world

Supporting shitty games doesn't make any sense either.

Vox Media owns polygon.com so I'm not surprised they are pushing the subscription (rental) model. The rental model brings loads of profit for the pushers.

the only games i've paid full price for in the last 3 years are sekiro and red dead redemption 2

60 dollars doesn't give you a full game anymore it's just a basic membership into ripping people off.

Finding a decent and fair gaming company these days are rare.

The Netflix model isn't here. There may be many digital store fronts to purchase games from and subscribe to. But, at the end of the people also want physical copies of games. You can't trade in or sell digital games. Plus, your tied to their service and if the service goes down which it will for maintenance or hackers. With a physical copy of a game you can do whatever you want when you want. The Netflix model of gaming isn't here.

I hate Netflix because 70% of the time it doesn't have the movie I want to watch, then I check Hulu, nope not there either, then I check Amazon Prime video, nope not there either. Then since I am on Amazon anyway I just order the DVD or Blue-Ray and rip it to my Plex server. Sometimes Netflix does have what I want but 3 months later they no longer carry it which would piss me off if it were video games. So far the services for gaming have been ok for me though, we'll see how goes long term. My concern is that they will start with big titles but then later just fill it full of crap.

In the digital realm kribwalker forgets that when you pay for a game online, you are downloading a file. Not paying for the box art, instruction manual, processing fees, transport, shipping, tariffs, stocking, disc manufacturing or any other physical manifest that would normally be incurred with a physical copy. And neither is the developer for that matter, so if you ask me I think it should be 20 dollars a game. If it is a great game we will spend much more on dlc content afterwards anyway.

Back in the day used to grab brand new pc games 25-35$ at costco, this $60 bs never made since. And returns were a thing. Warcraft $29.99

I'm a collector, and I like the option of now until I die I can play my games. The internet goes outnI can still play my games, where as with an service, the game can be removed at any point in time.

That sort of model will not really work for the video game industry. At least if you want the video game industry to stick around that is.