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TheGamez1001678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

Ouch the disagrees, forgot this was N4G, full of stubborn "gamers" that only care for one platform. Why is it bad to play with friends on other platforms? Pc and playstation have done it since long ago. And if its about hardware or input advantages (which is always the main argument), you will be matched with the same ppl with the same inputs if you arent playing with a buddy on a different platform. Also brings in a bigger pool of players to play with, faster matchmakings, and the game could last longer. Itd especially be amazing for noncompetitive games like destiny, warframe, and borderlands.

Shikoku1678d ago

If you think long ago was 15yrs then that explains why you think its a good idea.

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sampsonon1678d ago

not true. the reason half of my extended family owns a ps4 is because that was the only way we could all play together. when that happens that means sony makes the profit from console sales. which in turn allows them to invest in big budget games. don't fool yourself by thinking it's good for the industry.

Sony understands this.
if it's not their product they would be smart to stay away from crossplay.

Shikoku1678d ago

This guy gets it

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PurpHerbison1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

Ever since I was a kid I always wanted to go against opposing consoles. In Rocket League I can do that and rep my Sony roots at the same time. It is also a good thing for competitive gamers to have a bigger pool of players to go against for the sake of competition. Also takes longer for said games to fizzle out.

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Atom6661678d ago

"don't fool yourself by thinking it's good for the industry"

Lol. These are 3rd party games that are still being sold on PS consoles, still charging those MTs, still making Sony that 30% cut, and still making Sony money on PS+.

They'll be fine if we can play against players on other platforms.

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gangsta_red1678d ago

Having multiplayer games crossplay between consoles wouldn't hurt Sony's bottom line. They have had many games crossplay with PC and Sony still seems to be investing in big budget games.

Having crossplay across all consoles means third party devs are able to cut down on server costs and maintenance, which allows them to invest in big budget games. Don't be that guy that thinks this wouldn't be good for the industry.

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sampsonon1678d ago

@Atom666 please read my comment again. think

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Neonridr1678d ago

so if your buddy has an XB1 and has Call of Duty, why can't he play against you again? Or what if one of your extended family members just really wanted to have an XB over a PS4. That's their right as a gamer. But you would rather punish that player and not let them play with you? Again, how does that hurt you?

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Atom6661678d ago

Oh I read that nonsense. Walled garden should be preserved because Sony gets sales based entirely on gamers not wanting to be excluded from playing 3rd party games with those on their platforms.

That's stupid. Their openness to PC and games like Fortnite show that it was all just fearmongering from fanboys. Sony continues to make bank, and will do so in the future when more and more games become crossplay.

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rainslacker1677d ago

Considering that Sony is three times as popular anyways, is your extended family really missing out on anything? If playing with your friends or family is more important to them, then are their need to buy different platforms for whatever games they buy, or for whatever services they have on the other platform, really important enough to them?

I know there are people who buy the same console their friends do. The Xbox 360 was helped by that, especially among the college crowd. But, the number of people who buy consoles for the reasons you say is pretty limited.

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Kribwalker1677d ago

@sampson
so you care more about your preferred companies bottom line then making the gaming community a bigger and better place not separated by stupid boundaries?

The definition of a shill right there

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ChristopherJack1677d ago

So you don't want crossplay, because your friends may not buy a Sony console & that may translate into smaller profits which could lead to less investment in exclusives?

That's a lot of mental gymnastics & a terrible reason as a consumer to dismiss crossplay. "I don't want crossplay because sony would earn less".

So without being locked into the same ecosystem as your friends & family, you believe the common person would toss a coin to decide on their console? No! There's still plenty of reasons people choose their consoles & the fact that their friends own one or not is still relevant, just no longer a selling point(which could work against Sony too).

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gamer78041677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

I wouldn't say thats the only thing, its also the ecosystem, horsepower, accessories, controllers, social aspects, features, rewards etc.

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NeoGamer2321677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

It only matter because gamers make it matter.

Gamers buy into company marketing on exclusives making it a differentiator for a console purchase.

I buy all the consoles for my gaming room but not everyone does. It would save me significant money (and HDMI ports) if I only bought one and could play with anyone on any system and play every game. These three things are the last impediments to the ending of console wars and the start of a world where gamers can choose hardware/firmware/network based on their personal preferences rather then an analysis/trade-offs of what games they like.

The only people that try and justify that exclusives, are people that think that their console has the best exclusives. The other people are just trying to play all the games they like regardless of platform, on the hardware they prefer to game on, using the network they like the most.

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gangsta_red1678d ago

If a developer can do it then it should be allowed. They shouldn't have to wait or go through some "beta" program to have their game be crossplay across all platforms.

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rainslacker1677d ago

It's not a beta program anymore. A publisher or developer just has to apply through normal compliance standards now. been that way for a couple months now. Notice how few publishers and developers are jumping on the boat to get it done?

For all the complaints, and all the talk about how much devs and pubs wanted it, it was all bluster, where the reality in the industry was that most just don't care. There are more games getting it, but they're coming out through the normal process of when games had to apply for compliance acceptance. When it comes to things like this, it's a bureaucracy, and that will take time to show appreciable results. But in the end, most publishers still don't care. They may start implementing it if there is any appreciable demand....which despite all the bluster for the past couple years, actually isn't there, because people wanted to make it all about the console war.

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gangsta_red1677d ago

"For all the complaints, and all the talk about how much devs and pubs wanted it, it was all bluster, where the reality in the industry was that most just don't care."

Says who, the complaints were still there from developers who wanted it and haven't you noticed by your own admission that now there seems to be no beta program and Sony is letting more and more developers implement crossplay between consoles.

This doesn't sound like an industry that doesn't really care now does it? It sounds like Sony finally letting crossplay happen because this is what the industry and developers wanted all along.

For all the yelling and screaming about how nobody really cares we still get articles announcing crossplay for games.

No one ever said it had to be for every game, or that it was a must have killer feature. Again, this is what fanboys and defenders were pushing as the norm in order to keep their fake console war going. It's funny to even think that something like crossplay, bringing gamers together, would even be something that would set them off and have to argue about.

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rainslacker1677d ago

Right...and after all that, how many are scrambling to make it happen now that it's in open compliance? Even if every dev was on board, itd take time for it to show appreciable results. We've had 2-3 games in the last couple month announce they were doing it, and all those articles didnt get all this excitement surrounding them because most people chastising Sony were more concerned with that as opposed to results, and all these devs whose number could easily be counted on ones fingers just dont care as much as you've been insisting they do.

It does sound like an industry that doesn't care, because I'm not taking an insignificant percentage of vocal devs, but rather the industry as a whole. The end results may happen where its ubiquitous, but it's a fallacy to believe that they've all been clamoring for it just because MS said something. The industry doesn't turn on MS whim or marketing strategies. If they havent cared back when Sony made it possible over a decade ago, they didn't all start suddenly caring in the past two years. Some might, but MOST dont.

You were wrong about desire, and you still want to perpetuate the myth that it's highly in demand. You ignore when results are seen, and arent even up to date on recent developments. Your purpose has been clear for a long time.

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dumahim1678d ago

Counterpoint: valid excuse, the game is platform exclusive.

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Kabaneri1678d ago

Mobile/Switch should not play with XB/PS/PC players because they have a huge disadvantage in graphics, controls, and frame rates.

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Hungryalpaca1678d ago

So do Pc players using 5 year old machines against state of the art...

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harmny1678d ago

I agree. Let me wreck those console peasants why my master race mouse and keyboard

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Shikoku1678d ago

You're fooling yourself.

harmny1678d ago

I'm fooling all the downvoters

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Hungryalpaca1678d ago

MKB always beats controller.

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Traecy1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

Gaming companies have the right to agree or disagree with the option to share the same space with other gaming companies when it comes to cross play.

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TK-661678d ago

Having the right does not make it right to do.

Traecy1678d ago

That's your opinion.

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Neonridr1678d ago

ok, but why isn't it the right thing to do? So many people disagree with the notion, but they can't come up with an actual valid reason as to why games like Call of Duty or Battlefield or whatever can't be played across multiple consoles. I mean do people actually get upset if they knew they were playing with "one of them"? How does it affect anyone's enjoyment of a game? Plus not to mention giving much needed longevitiy to smaller titles or for indie devs that don't have the money to keep separate servers running for each version of their game.

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TK-661677d ago

@Neonridr

"ok, but why isn't it the right thing to do?"

Why isn't it right for a platform owner to dictate to developers which can or can't do crossplay? Because they're merely a platform provider and it would mean we're okay with them dictating to 3rd parties what their vision for their own product should be. The choice of crossplay should be the developers, not the publisher or platform owner.

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TK-661678d ago

@Tracey

No that is a statement if fact. Otherwise you agree that MS, Sony and Nintendo have the right to double the cost of their online services, and that they're in the right for doing so.

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Traecy1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

Running a online infrastructure along with having servers can become costly & if they feel they need to up the cost to keep it running efficiently including making it run even better more power to them. But it's up to each company if they want to cross play knowing it's not the law or they have the right to. It's their company & they can run it however they see fit.

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TK-661677d ago

@Tracey

So costly that it's free on PC. Thank you for confirming you're going to be a corporate slave though.

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blacktiger1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

I don;'t care about crossplay, make a great game and multiplayer

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blacktiger1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

so what we now going to include mobile if they can handle call of duty, OH LORD, what did the moron gamers have done,

ChristopherJack1677d ago

Well, since you're not using your brain and jumping to conclusions, allow me to offer some insight:

Generally, most games will continue to operate as usual, matching players on the same platform with similar input devices first.
Primarily this allows is for friends across different platforms to play together.
Additionally, when servers start failing to maintain capacity, it can be expanded to different platforms so that gamers can continue to game.

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TheHateTheyGive1678d ago

This again!! LOL

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Soybetaboy1678d ago

No ,I dont want to wreck children on a Nintendo platform.

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sampsonon1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

could care less. When i play i play whomever i play whenever i play. i own a ps4 so any games i play i find servers and no wait time to play. my friends are all on PSN.

this is a nothing burger.
and leading companies shouldn't have to lose profit because the weaker companies don't have the capacity to fill servers.

happy just the way it is thank you very much.

next thing you know people will be asking for the last of us 2 to be on pc and xbox lol .. NEVER!
go buy the bloody console.

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Nemop1678d ago

So it doesn't affect you, but does help a lot of other people play with their friends and find games quicker, but because it doesn't help you it shouldn't exist?

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sampsonon1678d ago

no. because it will effect sony's numbers, which in turn effects the amount of $ they spend on exclusives, and there for effects my fun playing God Of War, Spider-Man, Horizon, The Order, Days Gone, The Last Of Us 2, Ghost Of Tsushima, Firewall Zero Hour, Death Stranding, and soon to be released FF7 remake. which is EXCLUSIVE!!!!!

out of breath......

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sampsonon1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

and i see the sheep don't get it.
enjoy the other company that give you A, AA and G, H, and F.
don't worry about sony because it's not for you guys.

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andibandit1677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

"because it will effect sony's numbers"

I think most gamers already went out and bought a PS4, so if they want to play with someone on Switch/Xbox/PC they could save some money by not having to buy that system as opposed to what?..

Neonridr1678d ago

what about smaller devs who can't afford multiple servers for their titles? Or less popular games helping them keep full matches? How would Sony lose profit if XB owners were able to play with PS owners? You own your console and play on your version, someone else who already owns the other console will own their version. It's not like XB owners are going to rush out to get a PS4 for games like Call of Duty or Battlefield which have more than enough people on both platforms to go around.

I find it so funny how "offended" people get at the idea. It's so segregated on the Sony side..

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FGHFGHFGH1678d ago

Just say what you really mean. What about xbox with their low player counts, always seeing the same people in online games.

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rainslacker1677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

It'd cost more to do cross play, because with cross play, you absolutely have to have your own server. Not having it cross play, at least on consoles, means that you can rely on P2P connections, and use the console makers matchmaking API's to do all the heavy lifting. But with cross play, it requires you use your own server, which costs money.

Servers for matchmaking are pretty cheap regardless. Even if you run net code on the server for game functions it doesn't cost a lot, and if a dev is too small to account for that in their production costs, then the game isn't going to be any more viable with cross play.

A lot of the cost is going to be highly dependent on what kind of cross play we're talking about, and the extent to which the servers play a part in the online functions of the game itself....but I take most of this stuff to mean your traditional PVP or PVE type of MP with matchmaking in the way like you'd see any number of MP games.

Welshy1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

No it shouldn't. The option to enable cross play should be there lf a dev wants it, but it shouldn't be enforced.

If It was to be mandatory, at the very least you need to be able to disable it or filter matches by input device.

If nothing else, keeping online to one platform keeps things as fair as possible. PC can destroy PS4/Xbone with higher FOV, FPS and mouse input. Just as PS4/Xbone can destroy Switch for similar reasons. Just as all of the above could do to mobile for obvious reasons.

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Shikoku1678d ago

No thanks

SyntheticForm1678d ago

Looks like it's coming whether people like it or not. Be that as it may, I'm indifferent, but some of these poor kids are going to be dragged kicking and screaming.

Let the senseless crying commence.

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staticall1678d ago

Crossplay might sound (and work) good for some games, but is not a silver bullet.

For example let's take an online game, like Warframe. Now the PC version receives the updates first. If crossplay would rule the game, it would require every version to be in sync with others (otherwise, what's the point if with each update you can only play with one platform, because your version have the new warframe while others don't?) and it will make updating the game a very slow process.

In case of Warframe, it's available on Microsoft Windows, PlayStation 4, Xbox One and Nintendo Switch. That means that each patch or content drop have to be uploaded, verified and allowed for release by Valve (Steam), Sony (Playstation), Microsoft (Xbox) and Nintendo (Switch). Not only you have to write changes that are compatible across all platforms right away, you'll have to submit them for a review and make changes if platform holder requests them (which they might, both on code and content sides) and then apply those changes to other versions of the game. That's a lot of work and personally, i don't see crossplay benefiting me in this case.

I play on PC and if i can play with PS4, Xbox or - G-d forbid - Switch, it might make my experience worse (or might not affect at all), actually, due to framerate issues, loading, controls and other.

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andibandit1677d ago

Wouldn't they have to write those patches anyway?

I can see Crossplay putting some added pressure to release those patches at the same time, but that more than likely means postponement thather than a rush to finish.

CrimsonWing691678d ago

Agreed!

AnubisG1678d ago

Ok, if it is there and people want to use it fine. Just give us the option to stay within our system of choice. So allow us to turn crossplay off if we want to.

Personally, I don't want to play against PC players or Xbox player on PS4. No reason for it. I can't think of a single reason why it is a good idea or beneficial in any way what so ever. There are plenty of games in any game online.

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Neonridr1678d ago

ok, but can you think of why it's a bad idea or less beneficial in any way whatsoever? Interesting that people are against it but somehow don't have any sort of reasoning that affects them in any way at all.

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AnubisG1678d ago

How about extra work for developers for something like this instead of polishing the game or adding more content?

How about playing against people with K/M?

How about playing with someone and than not being able to add them to your friends list?

Is that enough?

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Neonridr1678d ago

@AnubisG - say it's just console to console then. How is it extra work when these games are almost copy + paste on these systems. I get the whole PC vs Console KB/M vs controller debate, that is a little different beast there.

But say just PS x XB cross play. What is so bad with that?

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AnubisG1677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

PS vs Xbox....what is wrong with that?

Have you played an online shooter like CoD? It's pretty bad isn't it? People are being real asses online aren't they. Now we introduce the console wars into online gaming....it will be 10000 times worst.

Also, the hardware and controllers are different enough to give one side an advantage possibly.

Again, if I play with someone onlie and want to add them to the friend list but they are on another platfrom, than what?

If you want to play with PS gamers, buy a PS.
If you want to play with PC gamers, buy a PC.
If you want to play with Xbox gamers...well you get the idea.
Also what is the plus side? Just give me a single plus side to this.

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rainslacker1677d ago

Network API's between Xbox and Sony are definately not copy and paste. The games netcode may be, but they have completely different security protocols to make them accessible through either network. They can be made to work together, and the current API's do manage that relatively well, but it is extra work to enable cross play....plus, it requires more capital, because it also requires the developer to maintain their own servers for matchmaking. Something both consoles offer for free for games if they use specific standards for communicating between players. Well...not free, but part of the standard licensing costs to put the game online in the first place.

AsunaYuukiTheFlash1677d ago

We don't want to play with the XBOTS. If you wanna play with PS4 players then buy the console.

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MAULxx1677d ago

See Staticall's comment.

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andibandit1677d ago

I'm going to be playing gears5 on PC with a friend on Xbox tonight, sold my xbox years ago.

bluefox7551678d ago

I mean, sure, it'd be nice, but is this really a huge concern for anyone? The only ones that seem to care are fanboys and game journos.

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Neonridr1678d ago

or devs who are tired of paying for multiple servers for the same game.

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Welshy1678d ago

90% of games are P2P, servers have nothing to do with it.

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rainslacker1677d ago

They'd still be paying the licensing costs to the console maker to allow access to console online infrastructures, but would definately have to maintain their own servers, or likely lease server space somewhere as is the norm. They don't have to maintain multiple servers, just maintain multiple log in protocols on servers which pretty much run the same code, but have different security routines to access the relevant network. Might be a bit easier to maintain with the current cross play API, as updates can be done without multiple testing environments, but not so much that it's going to cost them, or save them tons of money. They still have to test all the platforms regardless, and if anything, the cross play implementation could bring up more bugs than you'd see with all the platform specific net code which can be individually tested, as you wouldn't have to worry about a console maker passing the buck to the other side if a problem comes up. Neither company has really been that great at cross play technical support from what I've heard, and while the current API's work to make it happen, they're still kind of rough.

yellowgerbil1678d ago

Lot of entitled little millenials here thinking they're owed. Cross play is not in sonys interest at all. Why would anyone leave xbox for sony if they can still play with their sony friends online. Bet you're all socialists that expect the rich to carry you along too.

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Software_Lover1678d ago

................... what?

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Smokehouse1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

I disagree. I could not care less about crossplay and there is nothing wrong with a closed platform. I prefer it actually, all the people I want to play with are on the same platform. I don’t care that PC doesn’t have a big enough player base to get matches on certain games. That’s their problem.

They have enough trouble getting online to work on a closed platform let alone this intricate web of crossing networks. Who knows what new problems that shit holds. It’s not worth it in my opinion. Especially just to play with people I don’t care about anyways.

If online was perfect and seamless right now then I could understand the sentiment for this ridiculous mandate but it’s not seamless. It’s not even close, most of the time netcode is awful.

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Hungryalpaca1678d ago

I strongly disagree. I prefer playing on Pc but some of my closest friends only play on PS4. So I’m either forced to not play with them or buy the inferior version of the game when I can play it at much higher resolutions and framerates

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Smokehouse1678d ago

That’s cool, I just don’t agree with changing the entire network structure to accommodate you. This “crossplay should be mandatory” stance is ridiculous to me.

If a company wants to do it then fine but I would definitely like the option to opt out. I have no interest in playing with PC players. The player base on PS4 doesn’t need PC players to keep games alive like PC players need consoles.

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Neonridr1678d ago

@Smokehouse - but then you could argue why are we not doing it.. just to accommodate you? If you found out you played a match against an XB player by mistake, would you feel hurt? Would it offend you?

Less about PC players, there are problems enough with console vs PC, but strictly console to console, what would bother you about that?

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AnubisG1677d ago

But you would be more than ok to have an unfair advantage over your friends do to k/m that you play with huh? You must be an amazing friend.

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Smokehouse1677d ago

@neonridr

They are already accommodating me. They don’t have to change anything, I’m fine with the closed platform. “Would it offend me, would I be hurt” lol. What kind of dumb fanboy question is that?

It doesn’t bother me but the lack of it doesn’t concern in the slightest. I would rather them get netcode right on one platform before they start mashing a bunch of broken shit together. Minecraft, fortnite, whatever I don’t care about stuff like that. When my games suffer trying to accommodate this dumb shit then it will concern me.

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ritchi451678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

Where were all these opinions back when Sony tried last gen? Back then, everyone was quick to keep them separate, but now it's wanted?
Might as well just make a single console going forward, with different controller options

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Nemop1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

The only game that I could think of, and find with a quick search that did this last gen was Portal 2, and that was a very specific case where the developer has their own platform on PC so it wasn't really anything other than a specific deal between Valve and Sony. Since Fortnite, the biggest game, added cross play with console and PC it showed everyone that it was easy enough for them to do, but Sony was holding out and wouldn't let it fully happen.

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Neonridr1678d ago

so because MS was wrong last gen, Sony should commit the same offense this gen?

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rainslacker1677d ago

I really wish Sony or MS would announce that it's allowed now. That would end a lot of the misconceptions about what the current state of cross play between consoles is. When's the last time we saw an article of a dev saying Sony said no? But in the last month, haven't we had 2-3 games announced saying that it would have cross play between consoles? Why did those articles go under the radar and not get a hundred or more comments about how Sony is evil and the sole reason that cross play isn't a thing? You'd think after Spencer made such a big deal about it, he'd be ecstatic about announcing that its not available.

We were never likely to see a huge number of games go for it. Especially from the big publishers who are slower to adopt into things like this until they can analyze how it will affect sales. But, assuming that all these small developers wanted to do this, it would take time to update whatever they are currently working on, apply for compliance acceptance, be accepted, and eventually release the game.

trooper_1677d ago

Gotta love this sudden fake outrage.

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FanboySpotter1678d ago

I need Dead By Daylight crossplay. I'm a rank 4 survivor on xbox but on ps4 i stay at 20 to troll killers as default perkless dwight (also want to get the switch version for portability)

ILostMyMind1678d ago

It seems like it wasn't just a push of a button after all.

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Thundercat771678d ago

I don't agree. There are exceptions for a few games like Fortnite. Other than that, no forced crossplay.

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MasterCornholio1678d ago

It should be optional however it also should be extremely easy for developers to enable it of they wanted to.

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Tross1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

This again, huh? Must be a slow day for news. Yes, crossplay is a nice feature to have, but nothing should be a requirement for devs, and not every game has the personnel and resources behind it that Fortnite does.

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KillZallthebeast1678d ago

pc/ps4 cross-play sure. However Sony gains nothing from allowing cross-play between ps4 and xbox. Last gen Sony offered and Microsoft refused. Now that Microsoft can barley keep up with Sony all of a sudden they want it? Sony has every right to keep them out in the cold, and since they lead the console market it's just another advantage to PlayStation in the end.

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gangsta_red1678d ago

"Last gen Sony offered and Microsoft refused."

Sony never offered MS crossplay. I don't know why this keeps coming up when it isn't true.

MS only wants crossplay with Minecraft, why and how could having crossplay be some type of advantage or win for Xbox when players would still be playing on their own consoles? More third parties are asking their games to be crossplay, this would benefit them more than it would MS or Sony.

KillZallthebeast1677d ago

Well there's google for a reason. I'm not going to do research you can do for yourself.

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Christopher1677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

Just to clarify, Microsoft wants people to log in with a Microsoft account on PSN and be able to then pull that data into their own system that way for Minecraft. I don't think cross play is the issue with Minecraft, it's the login and potential data collection.

Sony just made it about cross play, which is dumb IMHO.

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gangsta_red1677d ago

"I'm not going to do research you can do for yourself."

That's the problem, you didn't do the research which is why you're completely wrong.

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KillZallthebeast1677d ago

I'm saying I'm not going to send you a bunch of links verifying they indeed did.

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gangsta_red1676d ago

And I'm saying you can't because there are none.

Bathyj1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

They can't get online play the work as smooth as they want now. Big online games always have launch issues. Throw in two or three more consoles and all the variables they bring and it's just a nightmare squared. anyone who thinks this is just a quick easy things to do with fooling themselves.

Besides Sonys superior numbers in user base is an asset to them clearly, and no one has the right to demand they simply give up that asset. I don't understand how certain a console can claim hardware sales don't matter anymore yet beg for more players to play against.

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AK911678d ago

After the failure of Fortnite crossplay I'm not so sure anymore.

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shauzy1677d ago

idk man pc players would rek the console players up in shooters

Mr_Writer851677d ago

I think it will be from the start of next gen.

I'm excited for Cross Play, my best friends PS4 died and now he only games on Xbox.

I have an Xbox but most of the games he plays online I own on PS4.

However if not having it now means we can have all games cross play day one on next gen then I can wait.

quenomamen1677d ago

Crossplay should be an option sure, but since there might be an advantage to some then it should never be mandatory.

Rachel_Alucard1677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

I've never seen so many comments more concerned about the money a company makes over their own interests. As soon as I see any comment disagreeing with someone because it might "hurt" the company's profits, that's the red flag of a fanboy. You shouldn't be concerned with a company's profits, you should be concerned on how to not get screwed over by said company. What is this clown world?

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RizBiz1677d ago

At least the option. I personally would rather avoid XBL gamers, but there should be some sort of check box for those who want crossplay enabled.

Artemidorus1677d ago

Would be nice to play others maybe give them logos or color codes text on names to indentify gamers on what device like others have in the past.

william_cade1677d ago

I get why Nintendo is around and PC gaming, but what I don't understand is why enough people buy Xboxs to make it matter.

gazgriff2k121677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

This bs is so 2018. And I'll say it a thousand times until people get it. Me and most ps users don't want to play with pc master race with there cheats and mods. And definitely not with 12 year old American xbot screamers. Sony know and listen to us not you, why should they or I care what you think. Your just bored because you have no decent games to keep you occupied

spambot08151677d ago

not in fist party titles.

AsunaYuukiTheFlash1677d ago

Nah a lot of PS4 players don't care about cross play.

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trooper_1677d ago

Stop whining about crossplay already.

xX1NORM1Xx1677d ago

Yes yes yes yes as long as theres input matching (where it matters) then it should be on everything, hopefully next gen its a dtandard feature because its been so good for me and my friends.

janus2251677d ago

I disable crossplay on MW BETA ! I dont want to be kill by some PC aimbot.

iplay1up21677d ago

That would be great but Switch players would be at a disadvantage. I love my Switch, but for cross play I would use my 1X. Framerates and performance.

MAULxx1677d ago

I don't play online MP but I think that if crossplay is what the console user base wants then they should get it since they're paying for an online "service".

Razuel1677d ago

was a lagy mess over wifi

neomahi1677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

Nope. The Xbox Live community is a joke, nope, I'm good with the PlayStation community. You wouldn't think so but there's a difference, not all gamers are created equal. Played Gears of War 3 on Xbox Live, it's everyone for himself, and while everyone had headsets, they didn't care. Now, played MAG on PSN, TOTALLY DIFFERENT! The PlayStation community is moreso Let Me Help You Figure This Out because it's funner. Huge difference so I guess I can see why Xbox consumers are hurting to play with PlayStation consumers but the honest truth is this: When Sony resisted Cross Platform Play with Rocket League everyone was all nice and Yeah! This is totally how it should be. Once it actually happened, gamers spat in Sonys face and rubbed it in like they'd just exploited a weakness, that's all the Xbox Community wants is to watch Sony "fall" to something they stand firm on so they can call Sony a washed up hack, I don't blame em. You cultivate your community. Microsoft has cultivated, like it or not, an overly competitive community of trash talkers, and they encourage it. Sony chooses to draw in gamers that want to lock themselves away in a room for the weekend to enjoy a lengthy story - driven single-player game. Nintendo, they're all about playing a couch co-op game with your friends and family, and neither companies sales are hurting, Microsofts have and they're all about online gaming. No, I don't wanna have anything to do with the Xbox community, bump that.

masterfox1677d ago (Edited 1677d ago )

nope, it shouldn't be an obligation, game companies shouldn't lean over some entitled fools, if they want to add it good for them if not good for them as well, simple as that.

Nintendo and MS are the puny brats crying(cause they are in a distant third and second place) cause somehow they want some of the delicious cake Sony has and baked themselves, don't forget MS and Nintendo are the ones who begin this crossplay annoyance.

ChiefofLoliPolice1677d ago

I really dont care about cross play. It's pointless to me unless you have friends on another platform. Croosplay is just meh to me.

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ChickenOfTheCaveMan1677d ago

As long as fairness is alive, I don't really mind, but the game industry giants are so shitty that I wouldn't be surprised that let's say EA gives the console they have some deal with an advantage in matches, like weapons are only accessible through this console, power-ups, whatever that gives you an edge against the other consoles' players. Even stuff like sugar bullets that give no damage once in a while against the advantaged console's gamers.

VTKC1677d ago

Did it ever occur that they DONT WANT TO have cross play? Its not the case of can. Why is it an issue that crossplay be initiated?You want to play with your friends? Then stop being a douche and get the platform all your friends are on. They all different? Then make some new friends dumbass. Its already toxic enough online, you want to add to that with online bickering in chat and messages back and forth of fan boys from different platforms? Players want to spend their time playing games, not deleting, blocking, reporting or muting everytime during online play

sprinterboy1677d ago

There is no excuses. Its upto the dev to decide wether to put crossplay into there game not you claiming no excuses BS.
Not all games need it, infact I've been playing Rocket league since the ps plus launch like playing it everyday and it's never been more piss poor from a matchmaking point of view since the introduction of crossplay.
There is games out there for sure which would benefit crossplay but its not something which needs to become standard or anything in all games ffs.

Eightbitbuddha1677d ago

I've always felt the same about this. Why haven't the multiplatform titles been allowed to be used for cross play? Hopefully the companies can come to an understanding and give their customers the chance to play with other people from the various console camps.