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Gears 5 and Borderlands 3 Show a Lack of Ambition From AAA Developers

BY JASON MONROE: I try to be a ‘Week One’ gamer. I wait for the ‘Day One’ furore to die down and the inevitable patches to fix the main issues, read a few reviews then decide whether I’m going to reach for my credit card. Generally, if I don’t pick up a game within the first 7 days, it is highly unlikely that I’ll pick it up at a later date.

I broke that routine this month. I picked up Borderlands 3 and Gears 5 without waiting to see whether they were everything I thought they would be, everything they should have been.

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TheOptimist1679d ago

At least someone recoognizes it. I would say 90% of the AAA industry show a lack of ambition. From EA to Ubisoft to Activision.

IMissJimRyan1679d ago

But a remaster of a short 90s game is the pinacle of ambition. Gamerzz....

Ausbo1679d ago

Amen brother. Nintendo seems to get a pass for this stuff

DefaultComment1678d ago

Have you ever considered that they just put out good games? Crazy thought am I right? If a game that is from the 90s it's a Remake and it turns good means that it was a good game from the very beginning, are you gonna $h*t on Resident Evil 2 remake as well? Final Fantasy 7 Remake?
The argument from TheOptimist is that if they make shitty games(doesn't matter if it's a new IP or a remake/sequel) they get a s**tty result. If you gonna make things, do them right...otherwise you have no right to complain for s**tty sales.

alexg5871678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

A remake and remaster are two different things. IMO remakes are ambitious because your literally taking a game that was made up to 10-20 years ago and rebuilding it from the ground up. Pretty much like a whole new game. Remasters on the other hand is a lazy cash grab. I would even say aside from loot boxes, it's the cancer of the generation

King_Noctis1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

Do we know what a remaster and a remake mean?

Link’s Awakening playtime on average is 11 hours. That is about the same length as your average single player games (heck, it is even longer than games like The Order 1886). Your hate for this game is too much dude.

https://howlongtobeat.com/g...

MadLad1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

Your logic then equates remakes of 90's games to current sequels.
I'm sure there's logic there. I'm sure of it.
…. it's there... still looking, but it's there.

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TimelessDbz1678d ago

Ambition gets your studio shut down lol.

SuperRaccoon1678d ago

Bad planning gets your studio shut down.

UhOh1678d ago

Yeah and some people think some of these companies are immune to this.

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Mopedgames1679d ago

There no lack of ambition for shoving microtransactions in the games.

THC CELL1679d ago

When u see games like god of war this is true

mkis0071679d ago

God of war changed the entirety of the series. Which is why it beat even Red dead 2 for goty.

FanboySpotter1679d ago

Didn't red dead redemption 2 still get all the awards for best music, best performance(acting), and all that? That goty award was too weird

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mkis0071679d ago (Edited 1679d ago )

It got Most of the Goty awards by a large number. And if the ones it got were from the biggest stages like BAFTAS, The Game Awards, etc etc.

https://gotypicks.blogspot....

Profchaos1678d ago

Goty awards are a strange thing we receive so many excellent games each year but have to crown just one despite genre so gow and rdr2 are the examples you have but they couldn't be more different if they tried ones a game about a father and son who happen to be gods traveling throughout the realms fighting Norse gods. The others a grounded western at the turn of the century and the end of the age of outlaws.

One features giant boss fights bizzare creatures and the other features cattleman revolvers, horses, fishing and no bosses because that would not suit the story.

Personally I wouldn't pick a game of the year because they were both really well produced fun titles that I personally loved so did millions of others.
Plus every goty award these days carries minimal weight awards that allow votes can get bombed and votes manipulated by a passionate fanbase and the awards that don't allow voting are just the opinions of some editors and staff of a publication.

Nebaku1678d ago

Yes, because changing the series from "game filled with popular 2006 gaming tropes" to "game filled with every 2018 AAA gaming cliche" reeks of ambition.

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Imortus_san1679d ago

5 times the same boss, and recolored enemies, good innovation.

AspiringProGenji1679d ago

''5 times the same boss, and recolored enemies''

That's fair criticisms but everything else was a reinvention of the series, which was as ambitious for SSM as any other innovative game

Zelda BOTW also had the same enemies with different colors, but it reinvented the series as well.

rainslacker1678d ago

I guess the same bandits in rdr2, along with 5000 different animals is better? Were there really any special boss types in rdr2? Seems the harder boss story fights were just more intense with more things to use the auto pop up targeting shooting mechanics.

King_Noctis1678d ago (Edited 1678d ago )

@rainslacked

RDR2 is meant to be a realistic western game. You can’t have a boss doing something like wielding a chainsaw and take 1000 bullet shots to go down. That wouldn’t fit the story and setting.

ShinRon1678d ago

dont forget the brilliant go here, no wait go here instead story

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AspiringProGenji1679d ago

Only if one has as much salt as you.

GoW was very ambitious and succeeded changing its core gameplay and kept its vision despite the many doubting its new direction. That is as ambitious as it gets

AmUnRa1678d ago

There a a few people on this site are salty that God of War won GOTY with more awards than RDR2. I wonder why?? O wait, i know why😉

spicelicka1678d ago

Actually no.

God of war is not a multiplayer franchise, it could afford to reinvent itself. How many multiplayer games do that?

Gears on the other hand has a huge multiplayer component. You can't just reinvent and expect it do well. The campaign was innovative in the franchise and actually very similar to god of war in it's new approach.

TK-661678d ago

Yeah for anyone wondering why you can't reinvent multiplayer games, look at the reactions to balance changes in LoL. Just a balance patch or character redesign can cause outrage.

Sirk7x1678d ago

God of War was an amazing game though. Even if you don't enjoy it, you gotta appreciate the time and effort that went into the production of that game.

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AmUnRa1678d ago

Yeah...no, God of War is the pinnacle of a remake, it is in no way a remaster, no way.

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Swiftfox1679d ago

I don't think the devs themselves lack ambition. It's just the AAA environment makes it impossible. The AAA industry isn't about creativity, it's about meeting market expectation, and squeezing every dollar they can out of someone to make shareholders happy. I could be the most ambitious dev on earth at Epic right now, itching to create the ultimate Gears of War with insane set pieces, a powerful story, brilliant characters, and gaming innovations that will change the industry--but all that dies with forced overtime for other projects, lack of job security, and big exec telling me "just do the same thing, make it cheap, and make it lacking so we can sell stuff". It's hard to argue with that exec, too, because both Gears 5 and BL 3 reviewed well and are being lapped up by the masses.

amazinglover1679d ago

Also not every game needs to be ambitious would be nice if we got more ambitious game in between their regular games. Borderlands scratched that borderlands itch and was exactly what it needed to be. Gears 5 was a major step up from 4 but the open world was lackluster while the game play was good and the regular straight forward levels where a major improvement from 4 it might have been a better game if they went with a more traditional gears game.

Look at breath of the wild people where calling it an ambitions game yet everything it did has been done before by many other games it was just a more solid implementation of those mechanics. I don't need ambitions games I just need well made fun games with no micro transactions.

TheOptimist1678d ago

"Not every game needs to be ambitious"

There is literally no ambitious AAA game rn. Dying Light 2 and Cyberpunk 2077 come to mind, but even Dying Light isn't very high budgeted.

rainslacker1678d ago

Its not that investors are against innovation. Just more they're afraid of the unknown. Especially true in series with proven track records, as changing things up means potentially losing sales.

If you really look deep, you'll see that investors and devs havent been against change right out, just that the changes they support dont always make sense. This is mostly manifesting itself in trying to add inclusive elements to their games. Outside of where its done with agenda driven motivations, the changes are there to try and drive more sales. That's the kind of change investors want and support. It doesn't usually have that end result, but that's another matter.

When it comes to game design, the changes they often want are based on what else may be popular. Historically, we can say adding open world to every game. Adding RPGs elements to a game that doesn't benefit from it. Or things along that nature.

What investors are against is taking risks with the unknown. New IPs, or drastic changes to a formula are really hard to make happen.

That won't change next gen, but I dont believe that the generalization made for these kinds of debates are representative of the whole. Just that innovation isnt recognized for what it is, and that some people dont give credit where its due, or try to hard to talk down anything that may be different, or like something else

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fsfsxii238d ago

borderline unplayable lmao

InUrFoxHole238d ago

Really like the series but each one seems more of the same to me. Needs a mix up. Tiny Tina was ok at 1st but overall meh.

gold_drake238d ago

you can only make a 1st person looter shooter so much different.

fans dont play it for the ganeplay but more for the story i would assume.

i know i did. and cause i liked the characters

InUrFoxHole238d ago

Idk but they're solid overall

FalcorMononoke238d ago

The first 3 games were great on the Switch so I'm sure this one will be good.

Profchaos238d ago

Hate to say it but this was a bad game I don't see the merit in porting it unlike the first 2