The former Real Madrid winger has voiced his dismay with the way the Barcelona star spoke to him during their meetings in the Primera Division in the past few years
"We played against each other a lot, and we always had problems. You know what really bothers me? That tone with which he always called me 'negro, negro'," Drenthe stated in an interview with Dutch magazine Helden.
Drenthe went on to explain that although he realises the use of the term is quite common in South America, he finds it hard to deal with, and explained that his former team-mate Mahamadou Diarra had similar problems.
"I understand that it is very common in South America, but we cannot stand it. Mahamadou Diarra, my team-mate at Real, would become furious when Gabriel Heinze and Gonzalo Higuain initially called him 'negro'. But they soon stopped.
"When I played against Barcelona with Hercules, I had the same problems with Messi again. Before the match, he gave me a hand and said, 'Hola negro'. He didn't shake my hand again after the match. I don't think he'll invite me to his birthday party."
This again?!? Negro means black. If a white player was called blanco would they be offended? Oh well. It's Messi anyway, everyone will turn a blind eye.
if you called someone blanco he wouldn't be offended because his in the majority, if you called someone negro he would be offended because hes in the minority and he feels like your doing that to hurt him.
Well if someone called me moreno or or cafe or idk whatever I wouldn't care. Really I mean if everyone is supposed to be passed being racist, everyone should be passed being insulted by such old slurs!
i dare you to come to South Africa where the black people are in the majority and call one of them negro, they'll still be offended. its not about majority/minority.
Point is, peoples thinking has lead to the point that only white people can be racist. In S.A we have had apartheid in the past but even now with blacks being in power and the majority, its almost reverse apartheid with more lenient rules and everyone is fine with it.
il give you one example of many.
here we can have a BLACK lawyers association where you guessed it, only black lawyers are accepted. but if they have a white lawyers association and reject a black man, they are racist.
trust me bro, i can go all day. point is, if you playing poker with a black man and you have a royal flush and he has nothing but the race card, he wins.
I agree about the fact its Messi so it will be ignored and thats wrong. It doesn't matter if its not racist in some parts of the world in Europe its a racist word and Messi plays football in Spain which is *drumroll please*.... In Europe!
just because you don't find racial comments offensive that doesnt mean other people don't aswell. you have to remember that football is an international sport and by calling someone a negro you may have offended someone who may have lived through a history of past discrimination. also you probably have never been attacked or abused because of your skin colour and so when some one calls you a negro or white trash or whatever you dont find it offensive. however many others have had this experience and its very distressing.
This Player clearly states it was done in a handshake.
"Before the match, he gave me a hand and said, 'Hola negro'."
Theres a diference imo between someone staring someone down in a fight and being plain racist,Are someone bullying someone racially, than someone maybe copying what they have maybe seen in a thousand movies?.
Again personally i tend not to use the words either way i find i have no need for them. I have friends of many different races and i see them no different to me.
If a word is used to hurt i have no reason to use it. But we do allow this type of thing to creep in when are cultures are built around it.
I think alot of people are to quick to jump the gun at things now adays and many are adtention seeking theres no place for racism. But make sure its proper racism before you go pointing fingers.
you could also argue that do these players ever try to stop using offensive language in the first place. besides, people have names...if you said " oi, Drenthe your a c**t you f*****g son of a b***h" nobody would complain it would just be a minor argument and thats that.
It's not offensive language where he comes from. Second, I agree they should stop for the sake of not encountering more problems, but you need to look at the bigger picture sometimes in order to fix a problem. In other words, media needs to step back and players need to talk.
I don't understand why you need to say "negro' or "blanco"in the first place. People have names and numbers, not like they don't know it and if they didn't...I'm sure they can read the back of a kit to find out.
@KingPin if you live in a country where theres more white people than blacks.. im talking 5:1 ration then yeh you would be ofended because in the minority.. same if you live in a country thats not yours if people call you a foreigner you feel ofended because your in the minority.. if the world was 50/50 black/white then no one would be bothered..
... but also in Hong Kong there have been many MANY people who couldn't have been nicer to me, and have gone out of their way to make me feel welcome and respected.
Hong Kong is no different than any place else: you have stupid short minded ignorent people everywhere in the world, who will judge someone purely on color, sex, religion, whatever. That's just the way it is.
That said, 'gwailo' isn't MEANT racist or insulting by most HK people. It's just how they're used to adressing white people. It's in their cultural language.
Which is why I can't be upset about it. Just like I feel the whole 'negro' thing from south-american players is getting more attention than it deserves. There's no way Suarez is a racist, and there's no way Messi is a racist. It's just how they are used to adressing black people. It's about as 'racist' as calling someone with red hair 'Red' or 'Ginger' or whatever.
@yi-long maybe i shouldn't use the phrase racist... its more about stereotyping and putting a name to it. actually i shouldn't have even used the word hate. I cannot say because I am not white if gwailo is offensive, but I do get offended by what people call me over there. Obviously not all people are racist, or have hate to another colour/race but they can offend people raccially without even them knowing.
Now on the case about the negro thing, someone like messi who has been in barcelona/spain for quite some years should understand that people will get offended.
Black people are the ones keeping racism alive by reminding everyone that being black is not right. When you get offended by someone calling you black it means you don't like being black.
THIS^^ I refuse to adhere to the b.s politically correct culture that the world is trying to make. I'm not going to go and call someone a racist name. Obviously, I'm not going to go up and say "hey negro wheres the next petrol station at". I'm not saying because the word negro is racist but because they don't know my background and there is no need to go and try to look for a fight with sensitive people. Black people in western countries keep playing the race card to the point where its just ridiculous.
I know a guy from Ecuador and he told me that negro is commonly used to refer to black people in a joking manner. The same way you would call a short person shortie or a tall person stretch. Its not racism, its cultural differences. I can't understand why these guys say a player is racist when the players play with black people themselves.
Negro is black in spanish since when is it racist to call someone black? o wait if black call white people crackers and say black power everything black thats not racist right???
"We played against each other a lot, and we always had problems. You know what really bothers me? That tone with which he always called me 'negro, negro'," Drenthe stated in an interview with Dutch magazine Helden.
Drenthe went on to explain that although he realises the use of the term is quite common in South America, he finds it hard to deal with, and explained that his former team-mate Mahamadou Diarra had similar problems.
"I understand that it is very common in South America, but we cannot stand it. Mahamadou Diarra, my team-mate at Real, would become furious when Gabriel Heinze and Gonzalo Higuain initially called him 'negro'. But they soon stopped.
"When I played against Barcelona with Hercules, I had the same problems with Messi again. Before the match, he gave me a hand and said, 'Hola negro'. He didn't shake my hand again after the match. I don't think he'll invite me to his birthday party."
This again?!? Negro means black. If a white player was called blanco would they be offended? Oh well. It's Messi anyway, everyone will turn a blind eye.
Yeh but no one actually calls people moreno or cafe..
Im not one for the use of the word tbh, But watch Jackie Chan walk into a bar in his movie and say whats up my N**a,
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
This Player clearly states it was done in a handshake.
"Before the match, he gave me a hand and said, 'Hola negro'."
Theres a diference imo between someone staring someone down in a fight and being plain racist,Are someone bullying someone racially, than someone maybe copying what they have maybe seen in a thousand movies?.
Again personally i tend not to use the words either way i find i have no need for them. I have friends of many different races and i see them no different to me.
If a word is used to hurt i have no reason to use it. But we do allow this type of thing to creep in when are cultures are built around it.
I think alot of people are to quick to jump the gun at things now adays and many are adtention seeking theres no place for racism. But make sure its proper racism before you go pointing fingers.
Do these players ever try and ask the player nicely to stop saying something that is offensive, instead of telling mom ( the media)?